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[dkCambridgeshire]

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My favourite London dealer has three of the ROM version at around £250, so £516.99 is somewhat OTT!

 

Your favourite London dealer's listing is for secondhand R accessories ... my favourite Scottish (ex Southend ) dealer's listing is for 'new stock' listed in their new accessories section.

 

dunk

[masjah]

Your favourite London dealer's listing is for secondhand R accessories ... my favourite Scottish (ex Southend ) dealer's listing is for 'new stock' listed in their new accessories section.

 

dunk

 

Dunk, sorry, I didn't read you post carefully enough. Of course that answers K-H's query about what the last list price was before discontinuation by Leica. Ff.......s still lists the new stuff they had in stock. I'm still astonished by this!

[dkCambridgeshire]

Dunk, sorry, I didn't read you post carefully enough. Of course that answers K-H's query about what the last list price was before discontinuation by Leica. Ff.......s still lists the new stuff they had in stock. I'm still astonished by this!

 

Maybe they still have some?

 

Best wishes

 

dunk

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Maybe they still have some?

 

Best wishes

 

dunk

 

I could be wrong, but I doubt that Leica has much of anything left in the R system. To the best of my knowledge, soon after they discontinued the line they sold everything lock, stock, and barrel that they still had left in stock.

 

Rich

[masjah]

I could be wrong, but I doubt that Leica has much of anything left in the R system. To the best of my knowledge, soon after they discontinued the line they sold everything lock, stock, and barrel that they still had left in stock.

 

Rich

 

Rich, true, but usually with the Scottish Dealer, if they still list it as new, it's some leftover new stock they still have.

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Rich, true, but usually with the Scottish Dealer, if they still list it as new, it's some leftover new stock they still have.

 

Masjah,

 

I must have missed that it was a dealer that had the part. Yes, some stock of R products are still in the hands of some dealers, and they would have the old price listing for such parts.

 

Rich

[algrove]

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Hi John,

 

Many thanks.

I just got an Macro-Adaptor-R 14256 from the bay and could attach it to all my R lenses.

On ROM lenses one has to push the little lever inside the back of the 14256 a little out of the way.

No tool required. A finger works just fine for that.

On my none-ROM lenses it simply attaches.

 

So if one has a mixture of ROM and non-ROM R lenses which is the best adapter to own? Does the ROM chip adapter get in the way of non-ROM lenses?

[k-hawinkler]

So if one has a mixture of ROM and non-ROM R lenses which is the best adapter to own? Does the ROM chip adapter get in the way of non-ROM lenses?

 

Good question.

I don't know as all of my adapters are ROM-less.

[algrove]

Good question.

I don't know as all of my adapters are ROM-less.

 

Do you always mount your adapters on camera first and then mount R lens?

 

This 3 cam pin is most always an issue when in the field and mounting ROM lenses. Was trying to see if there was an easy way around.

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So if one has a mixture of ROM and non-ROM R lenses which is the best adapter to own?

 

The Herr/Leitz/Goldberg UET-R. It doesn't care if the lens is ROM, 1-cam, 3rd-cam, whatever. The camera sees 3-cam, and I've never had a problem using it on any of my lenses, ROM or otherwise.

[robsteve]

Do you always mount your adapters on camera first and then mount R lens?

 

This 3 cam pin is most always an issue when in the field and mounting ROM lenses. Was trying to see if there was an easy way around.

 

I wonder if the actual Leica R to M adapter will have a little tab to move the aperture follower on extenders and macro adapters? In other words, mount the extender to the adapter/m240, then mount the lens.

[k-hawinkler]

Do you always mount your adapters on camera first and then mount R lens?

 

This 3 cam pin is most always an issue when in the field and mounting ROM lenses. Was trying to see if there was an easy way around.

 

 

Not always, but that's what I usually do.

My adapters are Leica R - Leica M, Leica R - Sony E, Leica R - m4/3.

For a lens with tripod mount it's easy to take off a camera with adapter and replace that with another camera and another adapter.

 

However, there is no problem attaching the adapter first to a lens (with or without an APO-Extender-R or Macro-Adapter-R 14256 already attached to the lens) and then the camera.

[k-hawinkler]

I wonder if the actual Leica R to M adapter will have a little tab to move the aperture follower on extenders and macro adapters?

 

No, it doesn't. I have the Novoflex Leica R - Leica M adapter.

 

In other words, mount the extender to the adapter/m240, then mount the lens.

 

One can do that.

However, the adapter will add extra distance to reach the aperture follower on an extender or macro adapter from the camera end.

[robsteve]

No, it doesn't. I have the Novoflex Leica R - Leica M adapter.

 

 

 

One can do that.

However, the adapter will add extra distance to reach the aperture follower on an extender or macro adapter from the camera end.

 

I meant the recently introduced Leica branded adapter. Previous R to M adapters were never intended to use telephoto lenses and extenders on the M and predate the ROM lenses.

 

If the Leica branded adapter has a tab to move the aperture lever to the normal position when mounted on a R body, you would not need to move the lever with your finger.

 

I am not really getting the concern about this as in the years of using Leica R, I would just move the lever to mount the extender to the lens if it got in the way, realizing that it was a possibility if I didn't mount the extender to the body first.

[algrove]

Rob

The one I examined briefly at Photokina had no lever that I could see, just the 6 bit coding and the removable tripod foot. Can't find it right now, but it was posted here around 18-19 September by myself under Photokina...?

[robsteve]

Rob

The one I examined briefly at Photokina had no lever that I could see, just the 6 bit coding and the removable tripod foot. Can't find it right now, but it was posted here around 18-19 September by myself under Photokina...?

 

It doesn't need a lever, just what was sometimes referred to as a null cam, which was just a tab machined into the mount to set the aperture follower into a base position. An example of this would be on the 400mm f6.8 lenses, just a tab/cam to tell the body it is a f6.8 lens. In the case of the adapter, it would be a tab in the same spot that the aperture indexing system is on the R cameras. In other words, mounting a lens to the adapter would move the aperture follower of the extender or lens so that it is in the same position as when the lens is mounted to a R body.

 

I may be wrong and the piece on the R To M adapter may require a bit of movement or be spring loaded to engage with all R lenses and extenders or macro adapters.

[algrove]

I know this is not long like a 280 R lens, but this beauty is formidable non the less.

 

R180/2.0 Summicron with new M

 

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I know this is not long like a 280 R lens, but this beauty is formidable non the less.

 

R180/2.0 Summicron with new M

 

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The lens looks big compared to the new M240. How well do they pair together?

 

Rich

[algrove]

The lens looks big compared to the new M240. How well do they pair together?

 

Rich

 

It's the diameter to get f 2.0. It is heavy, but as with all my long R lenses I use RRS QR plates on the tripod mount and it balances nicely just like the 105-280 or 70-180. It just shows you do not need a large camera body to take images. Now it's just that I must take good images which has nothing to do with camera or lens.

 

IMHO these lenses make the FP feature combined with the EVF the right choices for using these lovely lenses.

 

Wait til I get my 280/2.8 back from a Solms CLA tomorrow and then we will really know what BIG is.

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[k-hawinkler]

This thread has been extremely interesting and very educational for me.

So, I am still waiting for my M240 and have been using R-lenses on NEXs and an OMD.

 

Here are my experiences.

 

I agree with Jaap in post #3 and find the VARIO 105-280/4.2 more versatile than the APO 280/4.

For birds/wildlife I prefer to use these lenses on the OM-D EM-5 for extra reach with crop factor of 2x.

For landscape shots I use them most on an NEX-7 with crop factor of 1.5x and a very nice 2-axis virtual horizon.

I also finally managed to buy a circular polarizer for the 280/4. It should arrive in a week or two.

It will be interesting to see how that works out on cameras without an TTL OVF to judge the effects of turning the filter,

as EVFs seem to boost the image one sees.

Of course, these fairly heavy lenses I almost always use on a tripod with focus magnification.

Focus peaking then acts as a sort of focus verification in unmagnified view.

 

Similarly, the VARIO 80-200/4 is more versatile than the APO 180/3.4.

Both of these lenses seem fairly easy to use handheld with focus peaking on NEX-7 or NEX-5N with EVF.

They seem to me harder to use on the OMD.

 

Finally there is the VARIO 28-90/2.8-4.5. I expect to use this lens a lot on the M240.

To get an idea of Full Frame use, I used this lens with the Metabones Speed Booster on the NEXs.

Aside from some minimal vignetting because of the MSB, it seemed to work fine.

It should be a great lens on the M240.