Simon Bee Posted March 16, 2013 Share #201  Posted March 16, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) A strange pairing for a job lot, if I may say so, since Leica specifically say in their 280/4 instruction book, that the use of the Macro Adapter is not recommended for this lens. I saw the advert, and wondered if the photograph was an error, since the Macro Adapter didn't seem to be mentioned in the text of the advert.  Have a read of "chapter 3, paragraph 3" of the following Putts page, he even says you can use two macro adapters and the x2 APO with the macro adapter and 280 APO :-  en.leica-camera.com/assets/file/download.php?filename=file_1864... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Simon Bee Posted March 16, 2013 Share #202 Â Posted March 16, 2013 Ah the link doesn't seem to work so do a "google search" using the sentence "leica r lenses" ..... you'll find the pdf for the Putts page at the 8th entry down on 1st page. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masjah Posted March 17, 2013 Share #203 Â Posted March 17, 2013 Have a read of "chapter 3, paragraph 3" of the following Putts page, he even says you can use two macro adapters and the x2 APO with the macro adapter and 280 APO :-Â en.leica-camera.com/assets/file/download.php?filename=file_1864... Â Yes, I've got all these Puts reports on file. I was simply pointing out that my instruction booklet for the 280/4 R says that the use of the Macro Adapter was not recommended. Doug's booklet is different, and I honestly don't know why or when the change in recommendation was made. I guess you do what Puts suggests - suck it and see for yourself! Â PS: I also have a copy of the Leica 280/4 information sheet (the one that used to be downloadable from the Leica website) and it also says that the Macro Adapter can be used. So it looks as if my version of the instruction booklet (which I've just re-examined to make sure my recollection was not mistaken) is for some reason anomolous! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted March 18, 2013 Author Share #204 Â Posted March 18, 2013 Just checked my 280/4 Instructions booklet and on page 19 it notes that use of close up adapters such as the Leica Macro Adapter-R is possible. Also says the same in German. My book is # 930 611 X1/03/FW/L. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masjah Posted March 18, 2013 Share #205 Â Posted March 18, 2013 Just checked my 280/4 Instructions booklet and on page 19 it notes that use of close up adapters such as the Leica Macro Adapter-R is possible. Also says the same in German. My book is # 930 611 X1/03/FW/L. Â Curiouser and curiouser! Mine says (page 21): Â Close Range Photography The use of close-up accessories (e.g., MACRO-ADAPTER-R) is not recommended with the APO-TELYT-R 1:4/280mm. Â On the back page last line is: Â dt./engl.frz. 930 611 Printed in Germany 11/97/LW/L Â It's the older style (white) cover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted March 19, 2013 Share #206 Â Posted March 19, 2013 John, Â Mine says the same thing as yours: Â Close Range Photography The use of close-up accessories (e.g., MACRO-ADAPTER-R) is not recommended with the APO-TELYT-R 1:4/280mm. Â dt./engl/frz 930 500 Â Rick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturephoto1 Posted March 19, 2013 Share #207  Posted March 19, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) John, Mine says the same thing as yours:  Close Range Photography The use of close-up accessories (e.g., MACRO-ADAPTER-R) is not recommended with the APO-TELYT-R 1:4/280mm.  dt./engl/frz 930 500  Rick  Well we only know how well things can work through trial and error. Many times the manufacturer is too conservative, just plain wrong, or hasn't tried some combinations.  Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share #208 Â Posted March 20, 2013 Mine has a black cover. Â By the way what is the part number for the Macro-Adapter-R, please as I lost track of it? I have a 14167 which is about 17mm flange to flange-is that it? Â Also anyone have experience with and would know which adapter can one use the make flower close-ups while using the 21-35/3.5 R? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted March 20, 2013 Share #209 Â Posted March 20, 2013 Mine has a black cover. Â By the way what is the part number for the Macro-Adapter-R, please as I lost track of it? I have a 14167 which is about 17mm flange to flange-is that it? Â Also anyone have experience with and would know which adapter can one use the make flower close-ups while using the 21-35/3.5 R? Â The later macro Adaptor R is 14256 ... the earlier one is 14198. For flower close ups with the 21-35mm try using a Canon 250D achromatic c/u lens (4 diopter) with 58mm thread via a 58mm to 67mm step up ring. A Leitz Elpro 2 (4.92 diopter) might work but it's only 55mm diameter thread and would require a 55mm to 67mm step up ring which is pushing things a bit - danger of vignetting. Â dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted March 20, 2013 Share #210 Â Posted March 20, 2013 ... I have a 14167 ... Â the 14167 is a Viso-to-R adapter. Â The later macro Adaptor R is 14256 ... the earlier one is 14198. Â and the ROM version of the 14256 is 14299. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masjah Posted March 20, 2013 Share #211 Â Posted March 20, 2013 Working on the assumption tht black cover instruction booklets are later than white cover ones, and algroves black cover booklet says Macro Adapter + 280/4 is possible, then it follows that the advice in my (and others') booklet to the contrary has been superseded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share #212 Â Posted March 21, 2013 So there's only one way to know and that is try it. Who's first? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted March 21, 2013 Share #213 Â Posted March 21, 2013 So there's only one way to know and that is try it. Who's first? Â Post #183 and #185 in this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted March 21, 2013 Share #214  Posted March 21, 2013 the 14167 is a Viso-to-R adapter.   and the ROM version of the 14256 is 14299.   A new 14299 is listed at £516.99.  dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted March 21, 2013 Share #215  Posted March 21, 2013 A new 14299 is listed at £516.99.  dunk  I have one of the 14299 and it is similar to the 2x APO ROM in appearance. Just like the Like the 2x APO ROM, it is a bit bigger in diameter compared to the non-ROM version to make room for the ROM CPU chip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share #216  Posted March 22, 2013 A new 14299 is listed at £516.99.  dunk  What people ask and what they get for items, especially in this economic climate, are often two different things moreover for an item that is seldom used by most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masjah Posted March 22, 2013 Share #217  Posted March 22, 2013 What people ask and what they get for items, especially in this economic climate, are often two different things moreover for an item that is seldom used by most.  My favourite London dealer has three of the ROM version at around £250, so £516.99 is somewhat OTT! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted March 22, 2013 Share #218  Posted March 22, 2013 My favourite London dealer has three of the ROM version at around £250, so £516.99 is somewhat OTT!   Hi John,  What was the original price charged by Leica? Thanks.  Also, the ROM version wouldn't offer additional benefit when used with the M, correct? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masjah Posted March 22, 2013 Share #219  Posted March 22, 2013 Hi K-H  I've got a price list showing it at about £350, but I'm not sure that this was the final price before discontinuation.  Indeed, the M could not take advantage of the ROM chip as the adapter is totally "dumb". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted March 22, 2013 Share #220  Posted March 22, 2013 Hi K-H I've got a price list showing it at about £350, but I'm not sure that this was the final price before discontinuation.  Indeed, the M could not take advantage of the ROM chip as the adapter is totally "dumb".   Hi John,  Many thanks. I just got an Macro-Adaptor-R 14256 from the bay and could attach it to all my R lenses. On ROM lenses one has to push the little lever inside the back of the 14256 a little out of the way. No tool required. A finger works just fine for that. On my none-ROM lenses it simply attaches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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