Dirk Mandeville Posted December 3, 2012 Share #101 Posted December 3, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes, you are missing something: The M Monochrom shoots black-and-white only. If this camera was for you then you'd wanted one right from the beginning, regardless of what the image quality was (umm, okay—assuming it won't be worse than B/W-converted pictures out of the M9). What a ridiculous, pretentious, and utterly snide statement! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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iforum Posted December 3, 2012 Share #102 Posted December 3, 2012 Harold you are still over sharpening your images on your site Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted December 3, 2012 Share #103 Posted December 3, 2012 Harold you are still over sharpening your images on your site thanks for checking up! perhaps I should switch off the Lightroom option "sharpen for web on export" I do move the slider much less with the MM - old habits... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iforum Posted December 3, 2012 Share #104 Posted December 3, 2012 Good Idea to turn it off. most images don't need a lot of sharpening as the screens are back lit and increase clarity of images bnw seem to suffer more than color. I sharpen 35-43 max in Lightroom plus I brush in some sharpening where needed. Color files are a lot more flexible than monochrome when post processing especially when the colour hues of the subject are of similar density and one is forced to play with filters. These hues can be differentiated in most software There are a few posters barking up the wrong tree here, theater is ideal for bnw shooting as the lighting crew does most of the work the photographer so one should keep this in mind before hitting that extreme wow button Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrzm Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share #105 Posted December 4, 2012 There are a few posters barking up the wrong tree here, theater is ideal for bnw shooting as the lighting crew does most of the work the photographer so one should keep this in mind before hitting that extreme wow button Can you elaborate on this? What theatre experience do you have in order to make this statement? If anything the nature of this lighting was a hindrance due to both its intensity and frequency of change. Its the subject matter that lends itself to B&W, to suggest the lighting crew is doing the photographers work is a little naive. IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Mandeville Posted December 4, 2012 Share #106 Posted December 4, 2012 Jason, Congrats on getting on Huff's site with the User Report. These are great images and that should give them a much wider audience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrzm Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share #107 Posted December 4, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Jason, Congrats on getting on Huff's site with the User Report. These are great images and that should give them a much wider audience. Thanks Dirk, yes certainly a lot more traffic than my website I'm pleased, they were well received. Cheers, Jason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted December 4, 2012 Share #108 Posted December 4, 2012 There are a few posters barking up the wrong tree here, theater is ideal for bnw shooting as the lighting crew does most of the work the photographer so one should keep this in mind before hitting that extreme wow button Sure, and when you shoot in natural daylight, or a man-made street scene, just remember that "you did not make that". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iforum Posted December 4, 2012 Share #109 Posted December 4, 2012 Aspects such ambiance, drama, dominance of subject, subject visual hierarchy, shadows etc are all deliberate and structured aspects.................. pico out in the streets etc one has to search ps one my hats is a assistant to set designers for both live theater and TV etc If anything the nature of this lighting was a hindrance due to both its intensity and frequency of change Only if you haven't done your research etc ...........Time spent watching rehearsals and the performance is a blessing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrzm Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share #110 Posted December 4, 2012 Aspects such ambiance, drama, dominance of subject, subject visual hierarchy, shadows etc are all deliberate and structured aspects.................. pico out in the streets etc one has to search ps one my hats is a assistant to set designers for both live theater and TV etc Only if you haven't done your research etc Your all talk......too much talk and no substance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted December 4, 2012 Share #111 Posted December 4, 2012 ps one my hats is a assistant to set designers for both live theater and TV etc I should think you would appreciate when a photographer uses the set designer's work in a good way. Maybe you would be just as happy with some clown to do the photography, maybe a photographers assistant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iforum Posted December 4, 2012 Share #112 Posted December 4, 2012 I have been involved in the industry in various forms for a long time, both in the UK and Asia. In most cases they are specialist theater photographers and but there is a heap of access to other individuals at times on most sets. Pico as for your derogative use of the word assistant we are all assistants to the money men in these industries I don't know where I stated that the the original poster's images were not up to scratch so why the hostility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrzm Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share #113 Posted December 4, 2012 I have been involved in the industry in various forms for a long time, both in the UK and Asia. In most cases they are specialist theater photographers and but there is a heap of access to other individuals at times on most sets. I don't know where I stated that the the original poster's images were not up to scratch so why the hostility. I don't care what your view is in relation to the images, like them, don't like them, irrelevant to me. What you did and I'm surprised you missed it, was allude to the fact the anyone could have taken the photographs simply by turning up, as the lighting crew did the photographers work for him.....nonsense. Actually before that, I think you irritated me by commenting on colonels processing technique. Please, I beg you, show me your work so I can get the measure of this photographic wisdom you're bestowing upon us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted December 4, 2012 Share #114 Posted December 4, 2012 I don't know where I stated that the the original poster's images were not up to scratch so why the hostility. Shall we say that we have had better days and move on in good spirits? Very Best, Pico Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iforum Posted December 4, 2012 Share #115 Posted December 4, 2012 The colonel was quite happy that I commented on the sharpness I never stated that anyone could just stated that it lends itself bnw work with all that controlled lighting no different to the controls of fashion shoots. No I have no intention of posting images to satisfy your anger, besides I prefer to present photographs prints or in book form I find monitors as a very unsatisfactory way to present bnw images for colour they are ok As for your images the street ones are slightly over processed in the mid tones thus they lose a bit of strength but that is your choice. Good luck with your work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrzm Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share #116 Posted December 4, 2012 The colonel was quite happy that I commented on the sharpness I'm sure he was positively ecstatic, or is it that he is just used to you chipping in with these pearls of wisdom. In all honestly, your exhibiting more than a few narcissistic traits......... I'm not angry, just really, really curious, but alas, even monitors fall short of your exacting standards. I'll be blunt, you've got a lot to say but nothing to show therefore I just can't take you seriously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iforum Posted December 4, 2012 Share #117 Posted December 4, 2012 You prefer to post images on the net I prefer to print so be it; watch the over processing of your bnw images it creates halos. Must have been tough in that last union match kiwis vs the old dart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrzm Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share #118 Posted December 4, 2012 You prefer to post images on the net I prefer to print so be it; watch the over processing of your bnw images it creates halos. Must have been tough in that last union match kiwis vs the old dart You mean I stand by what I do and you hide in the shadows like a troll...... There you go again, giving people your opinion when they really couldn't care less, you really need to spend some time reflecting on that character flaw. Actually the opposite, I'm British...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iforum Posted December 4, 2012 Share #119 Posted December 4, 2012 Call me what you like but it won't change the images on your site these posted here are the best I have seen from you. Not so sure about the street angle stuff looks hurried, relax and shoot. bye enjoy the camera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted December 4, 2012 Share #120 Posted December 4, 2012 Relax my friend. I am relaxed. Are you? What a ridiculous, pretentious, and utterly snide statement! Sigh. Is it really so hard to understand? Having spent the first 10 years of my photographic life shooting almost exclusively black and white [...] I would also hazard a guess that I've developed and printed more black and white than you've had hot dinners. Paul, it's not how many black-and-white prints you made in the past. It's how many you plan to do in the future. From your remark I understand you weren't really interested in purchasing an M Monochrom originally but now you are. However being interested in a particular piece of equipment (camera, lens, whatever) after having seen someone else doing great work with it is a poor basis for a purchase decision. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying, do not buy an M Monochrom! I'm just saying, don't buy it because it has more resolution and less noise than the M9, or because you saw someone else using it successfully. Instead, buy it because black-and-white is where your photographer's heart is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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