Jager Posted March 17, 2007 Share #21 Â Posted March 17, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Maybe because it's the most exciting camera many of us have ever experienced? Â Maybe because the oft-reported issues, though very real, clearly receive undue exposure (a natural byproduct of the internet age)? Â Maybe because it's anything but an "experiment". Â Some people will never understand. And that's fine. But you really ought to do your homework before you suggest that "the Leica name is going down the tubes with what could have been an amazing product". The fact is, the M8 _is_ an amazing product. If you read this forum with an objective eye, not just cherry-picking the criticisms, you'd know that. Â Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fotogo Posted March 17, 2007 Share #22 Â Posted March 17, 2007 Bravo Jeff. I have over 4000 images from my M8 now....what a fine camera. It gives the access to the volume of shooting I wanted to do with my M6, but could not afford. Now, the M8 offers me what seems like limitless Leica use. I have not had any problems. Leica going down the tubes......? HA ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted March 17, 2007 Share #23  Posted March 17, 2007 @ Jeff--Amen. I've used more automated systems, but none are as good at what the M8 does as the M8 is  Case in point; I just shot some snapshots with a 75mm lens @ ISO 2500 @ f1.4 @ 1/16s handheld.  That's dark folks, and the results are actually printable (no--not tack sharp under those conditions, but not blurry either, and it's mostly the lens design--it's on purpose ).  I know of no other camera that will let me do this. In the conditions I work under, this is amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMB Posted March 17, 2007 Share #24 Â Posted March 17, 2007 Not autofocus, not 400 menu alternatives, not multizone fotometer, not zoom lenses, no neccessity of flash; in few words, an almost manual camera that in spite of being behind the times bring us the more simple and easiest way to do PHOTOGRAPHY. Â Francisco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest magyarman Posted March 17, 2007 Share #25  Posted March 17, 2007 Just curious. With all of the sudden deaths of the Leica M8. Why would a person want to spend 5k on that experiment? Personally, I was very close to buying a 15k Leica M8 kit and selling my Canon gear. I am so happy I did not take that plunge, and I regret that I was not able to trust the M8 enough to take that step. I guess I am a little confused by all the reports about Leica M8 failures and the glitches abound. Yet, people are still ordering the M8.  If I had a slew of useless leica M lenses, I guess I would order the M8 as well. Maybe I answered my question for myself. It still seem to be a tragedy that the Leica name is going down the tubes with what could have been an amazing product.  Regards,  I do have many Leica M lenses what present does not use, and I agreement complete with you. I also do not understand why specially professionalist want to swam in dorty water. OK, I belief M8 is great capability camera to make fotos. In one year will be same great capability oba mabe without to all this prablems. I wait. Sure I want gift best possibility fotos mine costumors, oba how many M8 I need buy so make sure in case one always gonna be work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thpeters Posted March 17, 2007 Share #26 Â Posted March 17, 2007 I do have many Leica M lenses what present does not use, and I agreement complete with you. I also do not understand why specially professionalist want to swam in dorty water. OK, I belief M8 is great capability camera to make fotos. In one year will be same great capability oba mabe without to all this prablems. I wait. Sure I want gift best possibility fotos mine costumors, oba how many M8 I need buy so make sure in case one always gonna be work? Â Â Buy 5 and have 5 in backorder, you sure that you have a camera that works and you make Leica and your dealer happy. Â Theo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogopix Posted March 17, 2007 Share #27  Posted March 17, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just curious. With all of the sudden deaths of the Leica M8. Why would a person want to spend 5k on that experiment? Personally, I was very close to buying a 15k Leica M8 kit and selling my Canon gear. I am so happy I did not take that plunge, and I regret that I was not able to trust the M8 enough to take that step. I guess I am a little confused by all the reports about Leica M8 failures and the glitches abound. Yet, people are still ordering the M8.  If I had a slew of useless leica M lenses, I guess I would order the M8 as well. Maybe I answered my question for myself. It still seem to be a tragedy that the Leica name is going down the tubes with what could have been an amazing product.  Regards,  Dear Stephen  You started this thread, and many have responded, including a few who agree with you. And if reliability were THE prime consideration, then maybe a lot of people stick with Canon for that reason.  However, as Mercedes, Leica and other companies that go beyond the realm of 'ok' maybe even 'good' the market for Canons and Nikons will always be the safe middle of the road. Those people have a point, but stand much to lose in experiencing supperior quality products.  To others of us, who buy the Leica's and Contax and Mercedes, we know that when the problems are solved we have what we wanted - top quality in what the device is trying to be. Images and 'life' to pictures, or handling and ride in a car, etc.  So I can only assume that the spirit to move up, make more of your life with whatever you thought the M8 would give you, is now lost to you. You will never know. The rest of us will, yes, have superior images. On average, for all the foot stomping, it is pretrty clear Leica and Zeiss glass is better. In reliability, Leica will likely surpass Canon after the initial period.  SO, you can wait, but I fear you will again find some reason not to move. On the other hand, If what I say strikes a cord, and you want to leave the world of the mass and go for the special, with all its trials, then you will go out tomorrow and spend that 15k and join an informal club that in spirit goes way beyond just the group of M8 buyers and keepers. You will join a group that strives beyond the average.  [Can you hear the violins playing ? they are REAL! :-) ]  regards Victor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_l Posted March 18, 2007 Share #28 Â Posted March 18, 2007 Hey, it really is simple. It is a Leica. And since we wanted digital (I've been shooting Canon 1-series for 5 years, after Leicas for 30 years) we will simply not care what we have to put up with as Leica gets its digital sorted....there is only one camera for us. If you don't understand that, it is because you aren't one of us. Not a value judgment....just a fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spersky Posted March 18, 2007 Author Share #29 Â Posted March 18, 2007 Hey gogpix, Â I appreciate your response. Anyway, I think the main thing is that I am still worried about the failure possibility with the Leica M8. I guess time will tell. Â Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEd Posted March 18, 2007 Share #30 Â Posted March 18, 2007 Leica is sending another 1000 lenses to the New Jersey office to be distributed in the U.S. That's a sign of success, not failure. Â . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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