satijntje Posted June 9, 2012 Share #1  Posted June 9, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I hope that the Administrator of this forum can leave this thread here in the X1 forum, as the following pictures are only provided to judge the quality of the X2, and not my photographical capabilities:D:D  The following pictures were taken in JPEG-fine mode 100ISO, and they were transferred via LR here only with making them suitable for size and dimensions.   So no further adjustments, just to demonstrate how good (or how bad, its up to you to judge this) the JPEG engine in the X2 (applies as well for the X1).  For me. the JPEG's are good enough, I do not have to print in large dimensions. Most of the pics were shot wide open (f2.8)  John Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/181426-x2-out-of-camera-jpegs/?do=findComment&comment=2035973'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 9, 2012 Posted June 9, 2012 Hi satijntje, Take a look here X2 Out of Camera JPEGs. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
satijntje Posted June 9, 2012 Author Share #2  Posted June 9, 2012 and one more Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/181426-x2-out-of-camera-jpegs/?do=findComment&comment=2035974'>More sharing options...
s38 Posted June 9, 2012 Share #3 Â Posted June 9, 2012 I'd have to say these are hands down-awesome!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andystac Posted June 9, 2012 Share #4 Â Posted June 9, 2012 very nice, I'm getting similar results, jpegs are better than any of my previous cameras. love the sculptures btw, suit the site very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfage Posted June 9, 2012 Share #5 Â Posted June 9, 2012 The first thing I'd do is stop shooting jpegs. It's like driving a Ferrari with 3 wheels. Â ... not to mention, you're compressing an already compressed image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
satijntje Posted June 9, 2012 Author Share #6  Posted June 9, 2012 The Leica jpeg Engine in the x-Series is a Ferrari!  .......and I don't Need to drive 250 km/h.....I'm not a pixelcounter  John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfage Posted June 9, 2012 Share #7 Â Posted June 9, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm not trying to be difficult. I'm just saying, one of these days, you'll shoot a real "keeper" and you'll regret that you didn't shoot it raw. Â And, sorry to be a nerd but if you don't need a Ferrari, why pay the cost of a Leica? The point of paying for premium gasoline is to get premium performance. Â I'm not going to fill up my 1981 Dodge diplomat with premium. Â ... that's just .... "stoopit". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnitzer Posted June 10, 2012 Share #8 Â Posted June 10, 2012 I'm not trying to be difficult. I'm just saying, one of these days, you'll shoot a real "keeper" and you'll regret that you didn't shoot it raw. I'm not sure if you are aware of the fact that both a raw and a JPEG file of every exposure is automatically generated by the X1/X2. So there is no need for regrets. Â And, sorry to be a nerd but if you don't need a Ferrari, why pay the cost of a Leica? The point of paying for premium gasoline is to get premium performance. Not all Ferrari owners use their cars to race at Le Mans or Neuberring. Â I'm not going to fill up my 1981 Dodge diplomat with premium.Your analogies are getting a little thin and non sequitur. ... that's just .... "stoopit". I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
waileong Posted June 10, 2012 Share #9 Â Posted June 10, 2012 Actually if you don't print to large dimensions, almost any camera is good enough, incl. phone cameras. Â Â I hope that the Administrator of this forum can leave this thread here in the X1 forum, as the following pictures are only provided to judge the quality of the X2, and not my photographical capabilities:D:DÂ The following pictures were taken in JPEG-fine mode 100ISO, and they were transferred via LR here only with making them suitable for size and dimensions. Â Â So no further adjustments, just to demonstrate how good (or how bad, its up to you to judge this) the JPEG engine in the X2 (applies as well for the X1). Â For me. the JPEG's are good enough, I do not have to print in large dimensions. Most of the pics were shot wide open (f2.8) Â John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
symmetron Posted June 10, 2012 Share #10 Â Posted June 10, 2012 RAW's best, but JPGs are fine with the X1 (X2) in many of not most cases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonshine Posted June 10, 2012 Share #11 Â Posted June 10, 2012 Thank you for posting the pics! Fantastic...my reservations from previous posts at forums about the X2 not having super IQ are gone! Â The Jpegs are great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfowler Posted June 10, 2012 Share #12  Posted June 10, 2012 Those are BEAUTIFUL pictures. The camera is sharp and crisp!! IQ is phenomenal in my opinion. This has made my day because my new X2 is on the way and I should have it by Tuesday.  I plan on traveling for the first time in my life out of the country. I am 50 years old and have never been out of America. I am going to Ireland for a week. I bought the X2 for this reason and because I want to take the best photos I can get out of a simplistic camera with fantastic IQ. I have had many lenses and DSLR's in my life but I just didn't want to be hauling around a big backpack on this trip when I should be trying to enjoy myself on this trip.  I also love the fact the JPEGS and RAW are created at time of shot. This allows a person to keep the jpg as is or do some creative work in PS and make it even better of an image. I also like the fact that it does bracketing for when i mess around with HDR.  Thanks for putting up this thread. It rocks!!  Sam  Sam Fowler | Photography Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efftee Posted June 10, 2012 Share #13 Â Posted June 10, 2012 The RAW and JPEG images of the same shot captured on the X2 appear different. The RAW image is brighter, almost like EV+1/3, and more saturated. The JPEG image appears more 'natural' and retains better highlight and shadow details. Â Strangely, it seems to my untrained eyes like the JPEG was the original and RAW processed! Even more strangely, landscape shots on the RAW image appears to be 1-pixel zoomed-in. Doesn't happen on portrait shots though. Â Anyone else experiencing the same? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.gt Posted June 10, 2012 Share #14  Posted June 10, 2012 The RAW and JPEG images of the same shot captured on the X2 appear different. The RAW image is brighter, almost like EV+1/3, and more saturated. The JPEG image appears more 'natural' and retains better highlight and shadow details. Strangely, it seems to my untrained eyes like the JPEG was the original and RAW processed! Even more strangely, landscape shots on the RAW image appears to be 1-pixel zoomed-in. Doesn't happen on portrait shots though.  Anyone else experiencing the same?  I am working with DNG files for landscapes right now. What do you mean by 1-pixel zoomed in? It is different for sure, just not comfortable with them yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feudal1 Posted June 10, 2012 Share #15 Â Posted June 10, 2012 Very nice set of photos - the fourth shot is my favorite of the set, as it looks like a capture of a special moment. Â I've found the JPG engine of the X2 to be very good. Colors are rich and photos in general have a look to them that I find very appealing, and that require little or no post-processing. I will likely switch over to DNG+JPG, but honestly, I don't know that raw files will really get me much more over what the JPGs provide. With Canon, I always felt compelled to shoot RAW, because the colors out of JPG weren't that great (at least in my opinion). The X2 colors are a different story! Â Nothing special about these, other than I liked the range of colors on display. I was also pleased that the red of the trolley in the first shot (which is cropped by about 25%) actually came out as red in the photo, not tinged with pink or orange like other cameras that have difficulties with the color red. Â Â Â I added a few more to the X2 photo thread (again, all shot as JPG, with no additional processing out of camera): Â http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/241956-x2-pics.html#post2096007 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.gt Posted June 10, 2012 Share #16 Â Posted June 10, 2012 Very nice set of photos - the fourth shot is my favorite of the set, as it looks like a capture of a special moment. Â I've found the JPG engine of the X2 to be very good. Colors are rich and photos in general have a look to them that I find very appealing, and that require little or no post-processing. I will likely switch over to DNG+JPG, but honestly, I don't know that raw files will really get me much more over what the JPGs provide. With Canon, I always felt compelled to shoot RAW, because the colors out of JPG weren't that great (at least in my opinion). The X2 colors are a different story! Â Nothing special about these, other than I liked the range of colors on display. I was also pleased that the red of the trolley in the first shot (which is cropped by about 25%) actually came out as red in the photo, not tinged with pink or orange like other cameras that have difficulties with the color red. Â Jpegs look fine to me.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym911 Posted June 10, 2012 Share #17 Â Posted June 10, 2012 Sorry but what is so exceptional about these images....? Â can you point me in the right direction as I just don't see anything that a host of other digicams couldn't do. Â andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feudal1 Posted June 10, 2012 Share #18  Posted June 10, 2012 Sorry but what is so exceptional about these images....? can you point me in the right direction as I just don't see anything that a host of other digicams couldn't do.  andy  I don't think anyone is saying that these are "exceptional" - we're simply discussing the qualities inherent in the JPG output from the new Leica X2, a camera that has only been available to most of us for the last couple of days. The intent isn't to show artistic images. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efftee Posted June 10, 2012 Share #19 Â Posted June 10, 2012 I am working with DNG files for landscapes right now. What do you mean by 1-pixel zoomed in? It is different for sure, just not comfortable with them yet. Â The image seemed to be enlarged by 1 pixel all around is what I meant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therbert Posted June 10, 2012 Share #20 Â Posted June 10, 2012 The posted images and the comments from the X2 photographers tell me that they don't see any "red flags" concerning image quality. Â I'm seriously considering an X2 - The size and arrangement of controls is appealing to me. Â The only worry that pops up in my mind is that some X1 users have reported dust on the sensor. I've never seen indications of dust on the sensor of any fixed lens digital camera I've used. I don't know how collapsing lenses can be dust tight, but most seem highly resistant to dust intrusion. If the X1/X2 isn't so dust tight, this could be a problem for me, as I would use the camera for hiking and traveling in less than clean conditions. Even worse than dust appearing on the sensor is the difficulty of removing it from a fixed lens camera. I can clean the sensor on my Nikons or Leica M8/M9, but not on the X cameras. Â Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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