antistatic Posted April 25, 2012 Share #1 Â Posted April 25, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm considering either of these classic lenses primarily for portraits. Â It seems that for less than the price of the 75 summilux M, I could get the 80 summilux R and a R6.2 in good condition. Â If I went for the 75 I would be using it on either my MP or M9. Â I don't yet have an R body but have had a R6.2 on my wanted list for a while. Â Does anyone have experience with both lenses? Does the R combination handle better than the M combination? Is the R easier to focus wide open and frame than the M? Â I realise that if I went with the R combination I would be stuck with shooting film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 25, 2012 Posted April 25, 2012 Hi antistatic, Take a look here 75/1.4M Vs 80/1.4R. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
colorflow Posted April 25, 2012 Share #2 Â Posted April 25, 2012 I have both. I use the 75 with the M9, the 80 with a Leitax Sony Alpha mount on the Sony A900, and both on the NEX-7. Focusing wide open with either the 75/M9 or 80/A900 is an issue for my eyes, and my hit rate is about one in three or so. Of course that depends on one's eyesight. The NEX-7 with focus assist and peaking is a different story. I get almost all shots in focus. However, I am not sure I like the crop frame equivalent focal lengths for portraits. As for the IQ, I slightly favor the 80 for portraits. It seems to be smoother with a special creaminess which you may or may not like. Hope this helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
4X5B&W Posted April 25, 2012 Share #3 Â Posted April 25, 2012 The 80 on a SLR is much easier to focus critically, optically they are pretty much the same, with the 80 being designed after the 75 had been in the market place for a few years. Â It is possible the 80 may be an improved design, maybe higher performance glass or coating, however the "look" is essentially the same. Both are superb BTW......highly recommended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted April 25, 2012 Share #4  Posted April 25, 2012 The difference, I think, is due to the difference in volume. A M lens is always severely constrained by the need not to block too much of the finder, and never to block the rangefinder. A SLR lens can grow to much larger dimensions because it can never block your view – it is not past the lens, but through it. And available volume is a severe restraint on lens design, which I think not all critics are aware of.  The old man from the Kodachrome Age Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antistatic Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share #5 Â Posted April 25, 2012 Thanks for the replies. Â R cameras and lenses look to be so much better value compared with the hyper inflated M lens prices. Â The down side of buying an R camera of course will be wanting a 21 and a 35 and a 50 and a macro and a super tele to go with the 80. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdk Posted April 25, 2012 Share #6  Posted April 25, 2012 Isn’t the 180mm/2.8 Apo Telyt enticing? I vow to restrain my self and live with the Nikon 180mm/2.8 AIs, but it is fun to think about the Leica version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted April 25, 2012 Share #7  Posted April 25, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Isn’t the 180mm/2.8 Apo Telyt enticing? I vow to restrain my self and live with the Nikon 180mm/2.8 AIs, but it is fun to think about the Leica version.  In APO 180mm league Telyt is f3.4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted April 30, 2012 Share #8 Â Posted April 30, 2012 They're both phenomenal Mandler-era "portrait" lenses, and very similar. Â On the M9, the 75 is superb, and with the improved framelines (compared with the M8) the 75 is nice to use, I find. Â I prefer, very slightly, the 80R Summilux though. I currently use it on a Canon 5d3 with manual and AF confirming adapters, and it's one of the best lenses of its type. You can also get lens mount adapters (as in you need to remove the original mount) for Nikon bodies. Â No need to be stuck with film if you want to use many R lenses. Some won't work with adaptation--they run into mirror issues and such. But the 80R works just fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antistatic Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share #9  Posted April 30, 2012 Thanks Jamie  I managed to find a 75 for a reasonable price which should be arriving soon.  The R system will have to wait for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 30, 2012 Share #10 Â Posted April 30, 2012 ... I managed to find a 75 for a reasonable price which should be arriving soon. ... Â Congratulations! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted April 30, 2012 Share #11  Posted April 30, 2012 Thanks Jamie I managed to find a 75 for a reasonable price which should be arriving soon.  The R system will have to wait for now.  Congratulations! You won't be sorry in any case, believe me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickgrafixstop Posted May 1, 2012 Share #12 Â Posted May 1, 2012 The 80mm is a fantastic lens, but don't forget the 60mm macro also. Before I bought a R6.2, I'd look for a R8 or R9 for not too much more money. I've used the 80mm on a Canon 5dMkII and couldn't be happier with the results. Either way, you could buy the lens and the camera for less than the M 70. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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