240sx Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share #21 Posted January 15, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hey, I looked at Setadel Studios website and it doesn't appear that their selling much of anything really. Maybe there is something I don't know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 Hi 240sx, Take a look here Where to buy my first Leica?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Studio58 Posted January 15, 2012 Share #22 Posted January 15, 2012 Of course if you buy from overseas you probably have to pay tax, but it still could be worth it. I am not sure how the Canadian dollar stacks up against other currencies right now, but it could be worth considering. Just buy from a reputable dealer and buy one in the best mechanical condition. The M6 is a great camera; you won't be disappointed. I recently bought an M6 (still have not used it) and it is such a nicely made instrument. As David and many others will attest, the M6 is a camera you will be most satisfied with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studio58 Posted January 15, 2012 Share #23 Posted January 15, 2012 Hey, I looked at Setadel Studios website and it doesn't appear that their selling much of anything really. Maybe there is something I don't know? 2 dealers I have purchased from in the USA are Popflash and Kurland. I bought the M6 from Kurland. Shipped all the way to Australia in perfect order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
firststream Posted January 15, 2012 Share #24 Posted January 15, 2012 Hey, I looked at Setadel Studios website and it doesn't appear that their selling much of anything really. Maybe there is something I don't know? ? Are you sure you're looking at the right page?: Setadel Studios : Photography Equipment : Cameras : Leica M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
240sx Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share #25 Posted January 16, 2012 Ahh yes, definitely had the wrong site! beautiful, thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
firststream Posted January 16, 2012 Share #26 Posted January 16, 2012 Great! Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
240sx Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share #27 Posted January 24, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hey everyone, So you all should be happy to know I found a nice M6 for $1430 with a high serial # so I scooped it up quickly! Assuming i will need a CLA, where is the best place to do so in Toronto/Ontario? Is Kindermann my best bet? Any info would be great! Thanks! J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
myshkine Posted January 24, 2012 Share #28 Posted January 24, 2012 Hey Jon, I will strong recomand two Shops in Europe- these two are very serious companies. 1.Meistercamera Hamburg (www.meister-camera.com) 2.Leicashop Wien (www.leicashop.com) Bought most of my Leicas + Lenses from Them, very good comunication.I rate both 10 out of 10. Do not even think of Ebay - try them first;) Greetings from Norway Stephan Although I bought my M6TTL on eBay with full satisfaction, I endorse the recommendation for Leicashop in Vienna. They are also of course connected to the Westlich auction, which I was able to attend in november. Very serious Leica stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
payasam Posted January 26, 2012 Share #29 Posted January 26, 2012 I hope the one you bought has had the view-finder "upgrade". If it hasn't, you may be in trouble. I speak from very recent experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
240sx Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share #30 Posted January 27, 2012 Do you mean the MP finder upgrade? No it doesn't, but why is that a huge deal? Tons of people use the M6 without the upgrade? They were made without the upgrade! Ha... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
payasam Posted January 27, 2012 Share #31 Posted January 27, 2012 The matter is disputed. Please see Tackling M6 "finder flare" cheaply - Photo.net Leica and Rangefinders Forum . As you may not have the patience to read it all, here is my next to last post on that thread: In Leica FAQ — RF patch flare Rob Schneider is quoted as saying, "The rangefinder/viewfinder on the M6TTL .72 is the same as on the M6 "Classic". It's also the same as on the M4-P and, apparently, the later runs of the M4-2. A condenser lens was removed from the frame masking mechanism, making the framelines and RF patch slightly brighter and contrastier..."; and Alexander Kraus is quoted as saying, "Recently, I found an interesting posting in the Leica customer forum, where someone stated that the reason for the whiteout of the rangefinder patch would be the switch from a flat mirror (for brightline illumination) to a parabolic one." In "LEICAVIEW" (SPRING 2003 • LEICA CAMERA INC. • VOLUME 14 • NUMBER 1) we see praise of the MP's "advanced viewfinder which incorporates a reshaped mirror and extra lens element to eliminate ghost images in the rangefinder field and to more evenly illuminate frame lines." That is, when something that was removed earlier was re-installed, it was hailed as a leap forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
firststream Posted January 27, 2012 Share #32 Posted January 27, 2012 Hey everyone, So you all should be happy to know I found a nice M6 for $1430 with a high serial # so I scooped it up quickly! Assuming i will need a CLA, where is the best place to do so in Toronto/Ontario? Is Kindermann my best bet? Any info would be great! Thanks! J. Congratulations on your purchase! Did you end up purchasing the M6 from Setadel? David Yau is just as highly regarded as Kindermann for Leica repair and support. His address: Yau's Camera Service 12 Fawndale Crescent Scarborough, Ontario M1W 3K1 Tel: 416-494-8988 We are very lucky Leicaphiles living so close to Toronto. I think it has something to do with being the major city so close to the former Canadian manufacturing arm of Leitz (Midland). J, this may be a little blasphemous, but I don't really believe in CLAs unless something is off in the camera's performance. Unless something isn't working, why bother? Others may have a different opinion...if so, I'd appreciate them weighing in. All the best; I hope to bump into you on Toronto's streets in the future. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
240sx Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share #33 Posted January 27, 2012 Thank you Firststream! I actually ended up buying off Ebay, but it is from someone who only sells Leica equipment and has 100% feedback, as well as accepts returns, so I figured how could I really lose? I would also like to hear what other people have weigh in on both the CLA and Viewfinder upgrade situation. Hope to run into you as well Firststream! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
240sx Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share #34 Posted February 1, 2012 Any suggestions on a good store online that has a descent size stock of summilux's in a range of prices? I cant seem to find anything from a store for a descent price in a Ver.2. Everything is on Ebay, and people without 100% feedback make me nervous! Any suggestions on this or the previous statements above? Thanks. J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalArts 99 Posted February 1, 2012 Share #35 Posted February 1, 2012 I would also like to hear what other people have weigh in on both the CLA and Viewfinder upgrade situation. I have two M6 (non-TTL classic) bodies. One has the finder upgrade and the other doesn't. On a rare occasion the patch flares out but it's no big deal to me. I use both equally and have no preferences. The one with the finder upgrade was CLA'd along with the removal of some frame lines. The other camera was bought used and has yet to have a CLA during my ownership. I won't send it in until I feel it needs servicing. Both were purchased from private parties. Both owners knew their cameras well and had taken care of them. I think sending in a recently purchased camera for a CLA depends on the particular camera and what kind of condition it appears to be in. It's not something I'd automatically do unless something wasn't working correctly or I suspected there were some issues with it. Or if I were about to do a big important project; but of course anything can break, even a brand new camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
240sx Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share #36 Posted February 1, 2012 Interesting, Thanks for weighing in! Aparently this camera I got has had little use since 2007 and has probably been used 2-5 times each year since then. I hear that this could be "bad" but the camera looks spotless and is in perfect condition, i have yet to hold it and play around with it. But, Also if I want all shutter speeds to fire correctly a CLA might be in order in this situation correct? Or am I off here? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalArts 99 Posted February 1, 2012 Share #37 Posted February 1, 2012 Why not do a film test first. Get some transparency film and set the camera on a tripod. Go through all the shutter times and aperture combinations for what the meter is reading (or better yet, use a hand held meter.) If the speeds are off, it should be apparent. Lubrication can gum up over time. Leaf shutters seem to benefit from being 'exercised' often. But I'm not sure that's the case with a cloth focal plane shutter. Maybe someone else has a better opinion. Personally, I would use the camera first before automatically sending it in for a service. And check it out via processed film results. Transparency film helps remove doubts due to variables from other parts of the chain, i.e., scanning or prints, etc.. Use a loupe and check out the results directly from the film. Enjoy the camera! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
240sx Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share #38 Posted February 2, 2012 Sounds like an idea. I just need a lens now and were in great shape, HA! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted February 3, 2012 Share #39 Posted February 3, 2012 That is, when something that was removed earlier was re-installed, it was hailed as a leap forward. This made me smile Any suggestions on a good store online that has a descent size stock of summilux's in a range of prices? Which focal length? Check the buy and sell section here or over at rangefinderforums. There are several online places. Leicashop (Vienna), Meister Camera (Hamburg and Berlin), Photo Arsenal (Germany, expensive), Red Dot Cameras, Aperture UK, Peter Loy, Harrison Cameras (all UK, reasonable prices), Newoldcamera, Foto Ottica Cavour and Foto Prisma (former two Milan, latter Bologna; all Italians have reasonable prices it seems), Collectcamera and Schouten-Select (Holland, both, esp. the latter, are rather expensive), Kevin Cameras and Tamarkin (both US), Wibergs Foto, Schönherrs Foto, L-Foto (all Sweden), French Camera (Paris). I've so far used Leicashop, Foto Prisma and Red Dot and all have given me very good service, respond promptly to emails and are quick to ship. I have two M6 (non-TTL classic) bodies. One has the finder upgrade and the other doesn't. On a rare occasion the patch flares out but it's no big deal to me. I use both equally and have no preferences. I've just ordered an M6TTL with the .72x. It will be interesting to see how it compares "flare-wise" to my M3. Reading about flare/white-out I've seen one piece of advice often being repeated and that is that recomposing or moving onself slightly seems to fix the problem. The fix of adding the condenser lens is apparently quite ok, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_galilee Posted February 3, 2012 Share #40 Posted February 3, 2012 Hi, I will strong recomand one Shop in Europe - Italy - Milan, this is an very serious, courtesy and pro's company. Newoldcamera - Prodotti You'll not regrets this choice. Kind regards Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/170439-where-to-buy-my-first-leica/?do=findComment&comment=1916560'>More sharing options...
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