lowep Posted February 21, 2012 Share #21 Â Posted February 21, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) So the only real "drawback" for using the X1 as a portrait camera is you have to focus holding the camera at arm's length to see the focus point on the LCD? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 Hi lowep, Take a look here Thinking of selling X1 for Digilux 3. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
nickma Posted February 21, 2012 Share #22 Â Posted February 21, 2012 So the only real "drawback" for using the X1 as a portrait camera is you have to focus holding the camera at arm's length to see the focus point on the LCD? Â No, you get used to knowing exactly where the central focus point is with the VF. It's nice to have an uncluttered view, and I nail focus through the VF every time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.gt Posted February 21, 2012 Share #23 Â Posted February 21, 2012 So the only real "drawback" for using the X1 as a portrait camera is you have to focus holding the camera at arm's length to see the focus point on the LCD? Â Not hardly...even with live view, I just held it about a hand's width from my face and it worked fine. The VF is sweet even if mine cost $40, an old Russian FSU finder! Using it for portraits is easy and fast with or without the VF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert blu Posted February 21, 2012 Share #24  Posted February 21, 2012 Hi Dave, excellent photo ! robert PS: but, is it the camera or the photographer ? PS N° 2: hmm, probably both... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk60091 Posted February 21, 2012 Share #25  Posted February 21, 2012 I'm thinking of buying an X1 so appreciate all the information about user experiences in this thread. Am I right that it is not easy to use but gives superb results compared to other cameras with aps-c sensor?  How do you focus? I am used to my old Leica R DSLR film kit so prefer to use viewfinder rather than LCD for manual focus but as far as I can see the only option for doing something like this with the X1 is via an optical viewfinder that gives no focus confirmation. So do you just frame your image then turn the focus ring willy nilly until the focus confirmation beeps?  Denis if you do decide to sell your X1 please contact me.  Peter   actually it is very easy to use- once you learn it's idiosyncracies- that takes time and practice.  June will be my 2nd anniversary with the x1 and with each outing i learn more about this camera and appreciate it's strengths .....  i have gone back and forth on OVF vs LCD con-pro-con again.  I use the AF 1-spot setting and it works for me. the results are simply amazing.  The lens is superb.  i was at my in-laws house on sunday (my wife and I were taking our nephew for an "outing"- giving my brother & sister-in-law some alone time). While there I took some photos of their daschund. I have always focused on the eyes for all portrait work (dog/people etc). When I took a picture of "topper" his eyes are tack sharp but at f/2.8 the tip of his nose was out of focus -- so i focused on the tip of his nose and his eyes were out of focus at f/2.8 (and one very long nosed dog) - this is one amazing lens. to get an image i had to stop the lens down 1 stop to get a bigger DOF. If i used the OVF for this image- I wouldn't known that i didnt get the image 1st time around... ymmv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted February 21, 2012 Share #26  Posted February 21, 2012 I'm thinking of buying an X1 so appreciate all the information about user experiences in this thread. Am I right that it is not easy to use but gives superb results compared to other cameras with aps-c sensor?  How do you focus? I am used to my old Leica R DSLR film kit so prefer to use viewfinder rather than LCD for manual focus but as far as I can see the only option for doing something like this with the X1 is via an optical viewfinder that gives no focus confirmation. So do you just frame your image then turn the focus ring willy nilly until the focus confirmation beeps?  Denis if you do decide to sell your X1 please contact me.  Peter Peter, taking your question above: the X1 is not difficult to use. Think of it as a photographer's camera rather than a 'snapper's' camera. It can be the latter, but is more likely to displease the 'point'n'shoot' type of owner. And yes, it does give superb results if handled sensibly. I also use manual exposure frequently to ensure optimum exposure. That is quicker than fiddling with EV adjustments.  I use both autofocus, which I find very accurate in single zone mode, and manual focus when time, situation or job suggests that it would be an advantage. Since the firmware update to V2, manual focusing has become much more effective and quicker. No slow wheel-turning to reach the required focus point.  I use the external viewfinder for less critical work, such as mid to distant scenes rather than close range subjects. I can visualise, quite accurately, where the centre of the frame is and invariably get it spot on. Occasional practice helps retain dexterity and accuracy. For closer subjects I use the LCD. Hope this all helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted February 21, 2012 Share #27 Â Posted February 21, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) ...When I took a picture of "topper" his eyes are tack sharp but at f/2.8 the tip of his nose was out of focus -- so i focused on the tip of his nose and his eyes were out of focus at f/2.8 (and one very long nosed dog) - this is one amazing lens. to get an image i had to stop the lens down 1 stop to get a bigger DOF..... Or shoot the dog in profile, a method I often use with dogs. Just a suggestion! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk60091 Posted February 21, 2012 Share #28 Â Posted February 21, 2012 Or shoot the dog in profile, a method I often use with dogs. Just a suggestion! Â it is much harder to pose a dog (especially someone else's ) than a person he was looking right at me and if i had moved to his profile he would have turned his head or ran away= as it was i missed the "decisive moment" because of the DOF but got an acceptable image otherwise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramus_ltu Posted February 28, 2012 Share #29 Â Posted February 28, 2012 I had Digilux 3 for several years, and now I have Digilux 2. Â The Digilux 3 is much better camera technically (faster in all terms, larger sensor, interchangeable lenses), but I never felt it was very good camera - the dynamic range of the sensor is low, iso over 200 is noisy. And as mentioned, it was not balanced properly, somehow. It's big, and not convenient to carry enywhere You want. For a used dslr, I would go for Fuji S Series DSLR instead of D3. Â The strange thing is that I often couldn't get sharp images with D3 - the heavy body and lens is hard to keep steady for movement shots - most of my street walk images were a bit blurry, even in a daylight and iso 400 / F2.8-3.5 . With D2, I can shoot in much slower shutter speeds, and have no problem at all with the sharpness. And I think D2 has a bit weaker anti-aliasing filter, so even in iso100 the images are a bit sharper than D3 (D3 images look a bit like paintings - interesting, but a bit boring after some time...). Â Now I use D2 and nex-3 with summicron 50/2. I won't go back to D3, and I won't trade D2 to X1. But I think X1 could be good D2 companion instead of nex (I like the 35mm more than 50mm). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmd Posted February 28, 2012 Share #30 Â Posted February 28, 2012 hi all , I have the x1 for about a couple of months now . At first I though , hmmm , did I spend the money in the wrong direction , I loved what came out of the camera but it was a little frustrating , just using it every day , everywhere has made me fall in love of the camera , practice practice practice , and forget about your DLSR philosophy , it is just so great and fun to use . IQ is excellent . Â I do think the grip or some kind of grip is a must , I didn't have one at first and got one the week after I bought the camera , just another world . holding it properly is such a great difference . Â I got the viewer too , and you soon get the clue to it to , great fun !! Â we all know what the camera isn't designed for , and for that its a bit slow , but for all the rest 87% of my shots i just love it . Â I posted some shots in the photo forum, hope you enjoy as much as I am enjoying this lovely little camera . Â cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmd Posted February 28, 2012 Share #31 Â Posted February 28, 2012 I forgot to say , Â some times I think , do I really need my other cameras and all the lenses??? Â what i would like is an X1 and an X* that had a 100 macro or something in that range . Â That would be my perfect setup 2 Â cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted February 28, 2012 Share #32 Â Posted February 28, 2012 it is much harder to pose a dog (especially someone else's ) than a person he was looking right at me and if i had moved to his profile he would have turned his head or ran away= as it was i missed the "decisive moment" because of the DOF but got an acceptable image otherwise It is much easier if you co-opt the owner to assist you and provide a focal point for the dog. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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