Riley Posted February 18, 2007 Share #1 Posted February 18, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) sample images to Sigma's soon to be released SD -14 with foveon sensor SIGMA SD14:Sample Image Gallery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted February 18, 2007 Share #2 Posted February 18, 2007 You probably have read all these on dpreview, Rob? Re: Especially for guys of SIGMA cult who tell lies: Sigma SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review C-R-A-P :D:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted February 18, 2007 Share #3 Posted February 18, 2007 Simon finally came out of your system:rolleyes: ........,,,, relief Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share #4 Posted February 18, 2007 i understand all that stuff Simon, but its not something i engage in unless it becomes necessary Im really more interested in the output Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted February 18, 2007 Share #5 Posted February 18, 2007 Jeez, I don't think I'll be visiting the Dpreview forums too regularly, is that level of aggression the norm there :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share #6 Posted February 18, 2007 Steve thats common and nothing in comparison to the dcresource forum canon/nikon battles but its a shame, and what has been said is nothing short of twitsville Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lode Posted February 18, 2007 Share #7 Posted February 18, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think here are two subjects that can be discussed: 1. Quality of Sigma SLR Talk Forum 2. Quality of the Sigma SD 14 images I’m more interested in the latter. As of now only the first has been discussed. I think the images have an extraordinary high quality. With a Foveon sensor there is no need for interpolation. A Bayer sensor measures only 1/3 of the subject, 2/3 of the image information is calculated, causing color artifacts (especially in border areas where calculations easily can go wrong) i.e “purple fringing”. I posted on purple fringing in another thread. Nobody seem to have noticed it. The discussion went lively further on “chromatic aberration”. A Leica lens doesn't cause "purple fringing". It wouldn’t surprise me if Canon came out with a Foveon like sensor. Lode Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted February 18, 2007 Share #8 Posted February 18, 2007 Sure the Foveon sensor is excellent but they are some tradeoffs so far: size, no high ISOs, Sigma body... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 18, 2007 Share #9 Posted February 18, 2007 First the forums and you wonder why i am here only any more. It's ugly out there and it is just not worth the fight. LOL Anyway i am interested in this technology as a whole and overall the Sigma sensor looks very interesting but it's in the wrong body with the wrong lenses for me. But as Pascal points out there are some limits to it also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted February 18, 2007 Share #10 Posted February 18, 2007 I don't mean this in an aggressive way, but this is really not the right forum for Sigma talk. There is a good forum for discussing such camera equipment, with a related thread underway, here: New Sigma SD14 sample gallery - FM Forums Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted February 18, 2007 Share #11 Posted February 18, 2007 I agree with everyone above ... what seems to be hilarious was ... that many photoshop artists had to come out defending their "sample" images ... BIG DEAL! a 4.5mp camera made by Sigma. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share #12 Posted February 18, 2007 yes Simon no matter the numbers tho, what has my eye is the visual resolution of past foveon sensors and others here have mentioned that it may be a street shooter solution one particularly charming fellow believes it to be a 'landmark camera' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokysun Posted February 18, 2007 Share #13 Posted February 18, 2007 i think it's fair to discuss anything for the sake of comparison. recently i bought several sigma lenses specifically for their color, also they've got wide-angles. here's a gallery shot with the 10-20 at 1600 on the 20d. sure, resolution not perfect, but what people generally love is the overall effect. one of these blown up to 12 by 18 and it looked great. (i got five lenses from various sources, several new, and they've all been sharp out of the box.) striking uncle jack Photo Gallery by wayne pease at pbase.com this said i've bought three leica r lenses lately and used them on the 20d. they've a completely different feeling. here's a gallery shot first with the leica 50 summicron and then with the sigma 50 2.8. blue room kid's shoemaker auditions dir lisa schmidt Photo Gallery by wayne pease at pbase.com i hate to say it, but in general people love vivid colors. i actually like the sigma effect better on the canon than what i've seen on the sigma's. the sigma cameras seem to make the colors rather bland. wayne ps. on the other hand judge from the polaroid digicam foveon at x530 foveon #1 Photo Gallery by wayne pease at pbase.com this is a hundred dollar camera. i suggest you buy one and try it out for yourself. there is only the effect you want, not some dream of equipment. for example, here is the polaroid used during performance to get a specific feeling outside technical perfection: polaroid x530 bluebeard's last nite b&w Photo Gallery by wayne pease at pbase.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted February 18, 2007 Share #14 Posted February 18, 2007 First the forums and you wonder why i am here only any more. It's ugly out there and it is just not worth the fight. I guess it's a boys thing. If someone preferes a Nikon over a Canon, or a Canon over a Leica, big deal, it's their choice. There are no 'bad' DSLRs that I'm aware of. People seem to have a need to justify and defend their own choices to an alarming degree. Similar on Photo.net, though there it seems to revolve around some people in the Leica forum saying what a poor camera the M8 is :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share #15 Posted February 18, 2007 there seems to be a lot of flamers out there predominantly Canon armed, and there is usually more than one its not about the equipment, its about bullying thats a particular behavior i just cant stand i try to defeat their arguments calmly, on technical ground but it makes me look like them i guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 18, 2007 Share #16 Posted February 18, 2007 Well I gave up on it and maybe spent too much time on it in the past and yes Rob it comes down to mine is better than yours , I also believe it comes down to people being jealous. Very true when it comes to leica because of the cost to engage in it. Than the other part is some actually think they know what there talking about and don't or seriously misinformed. Anyway not my bag of tea anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eronald Posted February 18, 2007 Share #17 Posted February 18, 2007 Well I gave up on it and maybe spent too much time on it in the past and yes Rob it comes down to mine is better than yours , I also believe it comes down to people being jealous. Very true when it comes to leica because of the cost to engage in it. Than the other part is some actually think they know what there talking about and don't or seriously misinformed. Anyway not my bag of tea anymore. I'm quite aware that the Foveon provides better imagery than either the lousy Canons or the lousy M8 I own. The Leica DMR also provides better imagery than the above - so why can't we all admit it ? Edmund Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share #18 Posted February 18, 2007 if they can patch up the noise issues they had on the Fuji's and make the colours more life like the excellent resolution it has might even make that true but because the market for CCD devices is so huge Im not optimistic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokysun Posted February 18, 2007 Share #19 Posted February 18, 2007 is there a perfect photo outside the one that perfectly expresses its subject-matter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltoid1 Posted February 18, 2007 Share #20 Posted February 18, 2007 Sigma - News Too bad no direct viewing. Might be a fun thing to have in the bag, no? sample images to Sigma's soon to be released SD -14 with foveon sensor SIGMA SD14:Sample Image Gallery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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