phancj Posted November 7, 2011 Share #21 Posted November 7, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am one who has used apple computers since apple 2 in school. Bought the first mac too. Apple computers to me is absolute joy to use for work, intuitive and just works out of the box. Havent read a single mac manual On the other hand, I have yet to take a liking to iphone and ipad. To me overly restrictive in many ways just not my cup of tea. I think on the one hand we do have many here is Singapore that just buy everything apple churns out but I feel we need to look at each product line on its own merits. For one, I am not sure if I will buy any Lion-native computers. Friends and colleagues who bought found it impossible to downgrade to snow leopard. Lion at the moment is dodgy with some 3rd party software. There is a distinct possibility that the couple of macs I am using now will be the last. Somehow I for one do not like the company's current course. But I do know its the correct way to go for them to reap the mass market big bucks. I am tempted to think that in the past macs can be compared to leica cameras but now they are more like dells/sonys/lenovo. Their pricing also suggest the same. Reliability is also going down the drain. My old laptops are still going strong (those still made in taiwan) but the last 3 mbp I bought 2 of them had to be serviced, and both twice. Advised a colleague to switch to apple he bought the internet router conked out in less than a month. He just sent in his 13" air. The thing just died within a month. Only 3 beeps and nothing on screen when he tries to turn it on. CJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AlanG Posted November 7, 2011 Share #22 Posted November 7, 2011 Following this logic, the only controls the M10 will have are three buttons and a touch screen interface. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted November 7, 2011 Share #23 Posted November 7, 2011 This is a bizarre thread. It's a bit like saying "I like Orville Wright and I like Richard III so I wonder if Orville was ever one of Richard's courtiers?" Mac, PC, they are all machines, to do a job. They don't work any better regardless of whether you sacrifice chickens to them or canonise the designer. If Mac works for you whoopie, ditto Windows. It's not worth arguing about. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted November 7, 2011 Share #24 Posted November 7, 2011 This is a bizarre thread. It's a bit like saying "I like Orville Wright and I like Richard III so I wonder if Orville was ever one of Richard's courtiers?" Mac, PC, they are all machines, to do a job. They don't work any better regardless of whether you sacrifice chickens to them or canonise the designer. If Mac works for you whoopie, ditto Windows. It's not worth arguing about. Regards, Bill Bill, you are, um, kind of missing the point (on purpose, no doubt, but still.) The most successful company in the world is successful, in part, because of a deliberate design and usability aesthetic that stems from a desire, in part, to simplify while still maintaining extremely high performance standards. Sound like another company we all might be familiar with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
57guy Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share #25 Posted November 9, 2011 This is a bizarre thread. It's a bit like saying "I like Orville Wright and I like Richard III so I wonder if Orville was ever one of Richard's courtiers?" Mac, PC, they are all machines, to do a job. They don't work any better regardless of whether you sacrifice chickens to them or canonise the designer. If Mac works for you whoopie, ditto Windows. It's not worth arguing about. Regards, Bill Bill Some people never get the point. You cannot say a Computer is a computer and all are alike, just like you cannot say a camera is a camera and designed to just to capture an image. Sure, some people can get a great image with any camera, but its the enjoyment and ease of use. Like the old saying, "Enjoy the ride instead of the destination". I just bought an Olympus E-P3 to back up my X1. What a pain in the "butt". When I use the camera, I have to carry the manual in my back pocket because of its complex menu system. It will be headed soon to one of my kids as a present. I never open the manual to my X1 (in fact don't even know where its at) So, can you say a camera is a camera, No matter who designed it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted November 9, 2011 Share #26 Posted November 9, 2011 FWIW I just gave away a 2003 Mac which was running 10.2 and I had retained to run a scanner which finally died last week. It is now running a printer at a graphic design friend's premises. Old Macs always seem to find places to survive in and remain useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted November 9, 2011 Share #27 Posted November 9, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) BillSome people never get the point. You cannot say a Computer is a computer and all are alike, just like you cannot say a camera is a camera and designed to just to capture an image. Sure, some people can get a great image with any camera, but its the enjoyment and ease of use. Like the old saying, "Enjoy the ride instead of the destination". I just bought an Olympus E-P3 to back up my X1. What a pain in the "butt". When I use the camera, I have to carry the manual in my back pocket because of its complex menu system. It will be headed soon to one of my kids as a present. I never open the manual to my X1 (in fact don't even know where its at) So, can you say a camera is a camera, No matter who designed it? Well, you are right about not getting the point. That's not what I said. It's a bizarre jump of wishful thinking to suggest that Steve Jobs worked at Leica just because the OP admires the design aesthetic of both. Let me try a different example. "Concorde and the Spitfire are beautiful designs. I wonder if RJ Mitchell ever worked at British Aerospace?" or "The Gherkin and the R101 both look like big torpedo things - I wonder if Sir Norman Foster ever worked for Barnes Wallis?" Now do you understand? Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Holy Moly Posted November 9, 2011 Share #28 Posted November 9, 2011 BillSome people never get the point. You cannot say a Computer is a computer and all are alike, just like you cannot say a camera is a camera and designed to just to capture an image. Sure, some people can get a great image with any camera, but its the enjoyment and ease of use. Like the old saying, "Enjoy the ride instead of the destination". I just bought an Olympus E-P3 to back up my X1. What a pain in the "butt". When I use the camera, I have to carry the manual in my back pocket because of its complex menu system. It will be headed soon to one of my kids as a present. I never open the manual to my X1 (in fact don't even know where its at) So, can you say a camera is a camera, No matter who designed it? The X 1 is the proof that SJobs never ever came close to Wetzlar or Solms..... The X1 is the modern fake of the Barnack Leica from the twenties. Leica looked back too far in my opinion. No 'modern' hump to have a secure grip, no roomy battery compartment, no, no..... Jobs always created new and never seen before items. Remember the first Mac, the plexi made Cube or the first iMac or the 'Table Lamp'. Based on the thread theory the iMac from Leica would look like the Apple II, as a Limited Edition in wood....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted November 9, 2011 Share #29 Posted November 9, 2011 Based on the thread theory the iMac from Leica would look like the Apple II, as a Limited Edition in wood....... That is funny because originally Steve Jobs wanted to use something like rosewood as he admired how that was used with stereo components of the time. Somehow he then turned towards minimalism, which worked great for them but I think is a double edged sword when it comes to usability. We all know how the MacBook Wheel over-reached the concept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janki Posted November 9, 2011 Share #30 Posted November 9, 2011 This is a bizarre thread. It's a bit like saying "I like Orville Wright and I like Richard III so I wonder if Orville was ever one of Richard's courtiers?" Are not bizarre threads like this just for fun? In between appear the strangest conspiracy theories. The discussion here is actually of the sweetest and most innocent kind. It instantly becomes a little more heated when someone claims that the moon-landings not actually ever took place, but just was recorded in a studio in Hollywood? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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