StephenPatterson Posted October 27, 2011 Share #21 Â Posted October 27, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Point being... Everyone should buy the 24mm Summilux. Don't think, just do it! Â Or 35 Summilux FLE. Seriously the message here is that one size does not fit all. I'm sorry if I come across as rude, as that was not (entirely) my intention. Rather I would hope that members would recognize that all of these subjective qualities are exactly that, and to try and rank them is futile. Â Â Â Â But everyone knows the 50 Summilux ASPH does have the BEST bokeh!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lord Fluff Posted October 27, 2011 Share #22 Â Posted October 27, 2011 Some have really ugly swirly bokeh. Others have very pleasant gradual bokeh. Â Clearly this is your preference, but don't assume that it is everyone's. For some pictures I really like swirly bokeh and I doubt I'm alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted October 27, 2011 Share #23 Â Posted October 27, 2011 Some have really ugly swirly bokeh. Â Hey, I like that kind of bokeh, among other kinds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted October 27, 2011 Share #24  Posted October 27, 2011 Where as with some of the cheaper ultra-fast lenses (namingly the Voigtlanders) the bokehs tend to be individualistic. You can really see each and even circle of bokeh. [...]  Shot wide open  Voigtlander 25mm f/.95 full frame: http://www.digoliardi.net/fl/voigt095full.jpg (large)  Focus was upon the fly: http://www.digoliardi.net/fl/voigtactualpixels.jpg (actual pixels)  This is just an excuse to post a picture of Lindsea (she's beautiful isn't she??  She sure is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezc203 Posted October 27, 2011 Share #25 Â Posted October 27, 2011 Pico - I didn't know you could shoot the 25mm f/0.95 FF, how are you doing it? I thought it was made for M4/3 format??? I'm so confused. But yes, those results are fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted October 27, 2011 Share #26 Â Posted October 27, 2011 Pico - I didn't know you could shoot the 25mm f/0.95 FF, how are you doing it? I thought it was made for M4/3 format??? I'm so confused. But yes, those results are fantastic. Â Eddie, that was shot on a Panasonic G1 M4/3. I use Leica lenses via adapters on it normally. The 25 won't work on any M. Sorry if I misled, but the subject was Voigtlander bokeh. Â I hope that shows up in the EXIF. I want to be straightforward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezc203 Posted October 27, 2011 Share #27 Â Posted October 27, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) True - but I was referring to FF lenses in my experiences (re: 35mm Nokton f/1.4, 40mm Nokton f/1.4, 35mm Nokton f/1.2, 50mm Nokton f/1.1, and 28mm f/2.0 Ultron) Those lenses. Â I am interested in this 25mm f/0.95, but I'll have to buy into a whole new system for that particular lens, not worth it. IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted October 28, 2011 Share #28 Â Posted October 28, 2011 I am interested in this 25mm f/0.95, but I'll have to buy into a whole new system for that particular lens, not worth it. IMO. Â Oh, but Panasonic G1s are quite inexpensive now. The 25mm originally retailed at about $700 but is rising now. Â People should be reminded that the 25mm f/.95 is completely uncoupled to the G1 - that is, no information is transmitted to the CPU - it is all manual and due to the live-view it can be hard to focus w/o magnifying the image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brill64 Posted October 29, 2011 Share #29 Â Posted October 29, 2011 the british m-mount cooke 50 is pretty dam nice..if you can find one. Â noctilux 50 f1.2...that would be my dream lens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share #30  Posted October 29, 2011 noctilux 50 f1.2...that would be my dream lens  Not to question you, but as someone who probably will not get any Noctilux in the near term, why do you like the f1.2? I guess there are f0.95, f1.0 and is there a f1.1 too?  What makes it a dream lens for you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted October 29, 2011 Share #31 Â Posted October 29, 2011 [...] Some have really ugly swirly bokeh. [...] Â From a 1930-something Zeiss Super Ikon (at least it is a German rangefinder). I love its bokeh. The photographer is Drake Hokanson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezc203 Posted October 29, 2011 Share #32 Â Posted October 29, 2011 Algrove - Leica made three different Noctiluxes f/1.2 (the original) and then the legendary f/1.0. And then in 2008, the f/0.95 came out. Â To the best of my knowledge, the f/1.2 version is only valued for its collectability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted October 30, 2011 Share #33 Â Posted October 30, 2011 Algrove - Leica made three different Noctiluxes f/1.2 (the original) and then the legendary f/1.0. And then in 2008, the f/0.95 came out. Â To the best of my knowledge, the f/1.2 version is only valued for its collectability. Â It's collectability is directly related to it's scarcity, as Leica scrapped over 50% of the lenses for quality defects. This lens has TWO, hand polished aspherical elements. In short it's a hell of a lens that was only discontinued because it was costing more to make than Leica could charge. I believe production was only around 200 lenses per year, for the entire world!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brill64 Posted October 30, 2011 Share #34 Â Posted October 30, 2011 the bokeh is quite wonderful and it is much smaller and lighter 50 than a noctilux f1/0.95. arguably, those two beasts probably outperform the 1.2 but not in terms of it's extreme rarity. six element design with two hand ground and polished aspherical elements, and very difficult and costly to produce at it's introduction which is almost before my time. i am not a collector, as i do not have the means but i imagine any collector that owns one would attest to the magical character of using such a rarely found, hand crafted lens. you have to dream big sometimes and that part is for free..leica ambassador, seal bought one recently...ask him ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brill64 Posted October 30, 2011 Share #35 Â Posted October 30, 2011 It's collectability is directly related to it's scarcity, as Leica scrapped over 50% of the lenses for quality defects. This lens has TWO, hand polished aspherical elements. In short it's a hell of a lens that was only discontinued because it was costing more to make than Leica could charge. I believe production was only around 200 lenses per year, for the entire world!!!! Â my hero! thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brill64 Posted October 30, 2011 Share #36 Â Posted October 30, 2011 ...go seal...yayyy!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share #37 Â Posted October 30, 2011 From a 1930-something Zeiss Super Ikon (at least it is a German rangefinder). I love its bokeh. The photographer isDrake Hokanson. Â Thanks. Â Great website. Nice darkroom setup. Reminds me a darkroom I knew well 40 years ago. Also see he uses my old favorite the 6x6 Hasselblad SWC with a fixed Zeiss 38mm. I wonder if today he uses a Phase One P45 digital back on that? At 39MP it should help him create super sharp images for very large prints if desired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShivaYash Posted October 30, 2011 Share #38 Â Posted October 30, 2011 35mm f2 (4th) pre-ASPH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted October 30, 2011 Share #39  Posted October 30, 2011 Thanks. Great website. Nice darkroom setup. Reminds me a darkroom I knew well 40 years ago. Also see he uses my old favorite the 6x6 Hasselblad SWC with a fixed Zeiss 38mm. I wonder if today he uses a Phase One P45 digital back on that? At 39MP it should help him create super sharp images for very large prints if desired.  I'm pleased to say that I introduced Drake to the SWC by loaning him mine (which is now shelved in need of a CLA). He uses mainly an 80mm lens on the Hasselblad, and sometimes a SWC and a huge 120 fixed lens panoramic camera. No digital backs. He did buy some kind of DSLR last year but I haven't seen it used for any show or publication work yet. He admitted he's' going through a bit of a crisis deciding to stay with film or go digital. He and his wife (who is also a writer) take cross-country trips and the man will come home with hundreds of rolls of 120 to process. He retired from the full-time job at the same time I did: last June, and he's on the road, and I suspect with his ambition and so much more time he will hit the wall.  You can find his books on Amazon.com or buy directly from him. His prints are spendy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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