Jeff S Posted September 13, 2011 Share #41 Posted September 13, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) In the cold weather the cases come in handy because the M9 turns into an ice block. Holding leather is much more manageable. I prefer thin gloves, with removable finger covers, or with no index finger cover. Or, just put the camera in a pocket or under a jacket until needed. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Adam Marelli Posted September 13, 2011 Share #42 Posted September 13, 2011 Like I said, they are not for everyone. Fingerless gloves are not my jam, but if it works, go for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted September 13, 2011 Share #43 Posted September 13, 2011 Exactly...to each his/her own. Actually, I almost never wear gloves, preferring to go au naturel and letting my clothes provide warmth. But, given choice between fingerless gloves and a case, then gloves are just the lesser of evils for me. The important part, of course, is using the camera, by whatever means. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafoofan Posted September 13, 2011 Share #44 Posted September 13, 2011 I've never seen Luigi's cases in the flesh, but I agree that some of the stitching in the the online photos looks sloppy. One expects hand-sewing in a leather good to show certain inconsistencies, but it should take some considered examination to notice, not a moment's glance. I've heard similar excuses made for hand-sewn suits and shirts. There are many expensive brands (mostly Italian) that sell on the basis of being hand-sewn. Yet, quality hand-sewing is rare and most consumers can't or don't distinguish. From close-ups, the JNK cases seem to be the best quality I can find online. That said, I think Luigi's M cases are perhaps the most elegantly contoured in front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bocaburger Posted September 13, 2011 Share #45 Posted September 13, 2011 I owned a Luigi case with my M8. When I got an M9 the dealer happened to have a used-but-new-looking case of Asian origin for <$50 so I ordered it figuring to put it on the M8 and switch the Luigi to the M9. I do know leather, and the quality was at least as good as the Luigi, not to mention the cut-out was more accurate and the stitching more consistent. When I sold the M8 I also sold the Luigi case. I'd bought it used and got back what it cost me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafoofan Posted September 13, 2011 Share #46 Posted September 13, 2011 I owned a Luigi case with my M8. When I got an M9 the dealer happened to have a used-but-new-looking case of Asian origin for <$50 so I ordered it figuring to put it on the M8 and switch the Luigi to the M9. I do know leather, and the quality was at least as good as the Luigi, not to mention the cut-out was more accurate and the stitching more consistent. When I sold the M8 I also sold the Luigi case. I'd bought it used and got back what it cost me. Well, in the instance of half-cases for cameras, mass manufacturing can probably yield better results than handcraft. We're not talking about making clothes for people of infinitely varying physiques, after all. A particular camera model is going to have exactly the same dimensions from example to example. Once a manufacturer nails down those dimensions, it makes sense to use the method that will guarantee the most consistent results But leather quality is still an issue. Have you seen the JnK cases? They look promising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
businessasusual Posted September 13, 2011 Share #47 Posted September 13, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think of them more as condoms; may offer protection, but lessens the experience. Jeff It could be said the risk of not using them means one has to be really careful or it could become an extremely expensive affair. LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted September 14, 2011 Share #48 Posted September 14, 2011 It could be said the risk of not using them means one has to be really careful or it could become an extremely expensive affair. LOL I count on my lens having a diaphragm. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
businessasusual Posted September 14, 2011 Share #49 Posted September 14, 2011 I count on my lens having a diaphragm. Jeff LOL - Good One, Jeff - love it!!! :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted September 14, 2011 Share #50 Posted September 14, 2011 Camera cases are for people who wear their underwear over their trousers, Thanks - the base material is of better- it is not done by child's work - the treatment of the lether considers more stringent environmental laws - you get a guaranty - the country it is made in has a social system with health care, pension, social welfare etc. Regards, Steve You forgot to mention the more happy raised cows Steve Reading this thread, I had that strange fantasy of putting a really, really tight, thin red leather half case over my worn Nikon F3 with MD-4 motor drive. I guess, pairing it with a sleek lizard skin neck strap would complete the show. Not sure though, if I would then pair said camera with a massive zoom or rather an exquisite superfast 50mm for social gatherings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ash Posted September 14, 2011 Share #51 Posted September 14, 2011 You forgot to mention the more happy raised cows Steve Menos, you are perfectly right! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/161701-why-are-poorly-fitting-italian-cases-so-expensive/?do=findComment&comment=1792965'>More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted September 14, 2011 Share #52 Posted September 14, 2011 Camera cases are for people who wear their underwear over their trousers, In the book "Blood and Champagne, the life and times of Robert Capa" there is not a single photo of Capa holding a camera that is NOT in a case. This includes the last photo taken of Robert Capa alive, with his Contax in leather case around his neck. There is also a photo of Capa with George Rodger taken in Naples in 1943. George Rodger's Leica and another camera are clearly seen in leather cases. These guys shot hundreds of frames a day, often in less than ideal situations (i.e. under fire) and saw the advantages of using a case. Considering that with my M9 and an 8 gig card I might have to remove the case once a day doesn't seem like too major an obstacle for the added protection and grip afforded by said case. Opinions...everybody's got one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafoofan Posted September 14, 2011 Share #53 Posted September 14, 2011 Can't you be serious about taking pictures and also love the beauty of the tool you use to make them? I can't contemplate a necessary contradiction between the two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted September 15, 2011 Share #54 Posted September 15, 2011 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted September 15, 2011 Share #55 Posted September 15, 2011 In the auto-body repair in the USA there is a spray they call a "body condom". It' a spray-on that they cover the whole car with except the part to repair. So remove the lens, mask off the important parts, and body-cover your camera. oops - it won't look pretty and expensive. Sorry about that! But it will look like new when you sell it. I let my bodies ding and scratch without a second thought. There's always a replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted September 15, 2011 Share #56 Posted September 15, 2011 My grandfather, who lived through the Great Depression supporting his family by working in a coal mine, taught me respect for tools, which is what a camera is. Before he passed away he gave my father his Canon IVSB, in leather case, with lenses. Like all his other tools the Canon was well used, but was kept clean and protected, and is still used on occasion by my father. "Take care of your tools and they will take care of you..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fang Posted September 15, 2011 Share #57 Posted September 15, 2011 "Take care of your tools and they will take care of you..." - wisdom that we can't argue with. I actually hurts when the camera drops or scratched. My grandfather, who lived through the Great Depression supporting his family by working in a coal mine, taught me respect for tools, which is what a camera is. Before he passed away he gave my father his Canon IVSB, in leather case, with lenses. Like all his other tools the Canon was well used, but was kept clean and protected, and is still used on occasion by my father. "Take care of your tools and they will take care of you..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
photoart Posted September 15, 2011 Share #58 Posted September 15, 2011 I would like a nice leather half case for the M9.I see on this site many are happy with one particular Italian made leather case. When I go to that site the photos their of these cases appear to not to be well made. To my eye his stitching is poorly done (not straight when it should be etc.) and the leather itself doesn't appear to be cut properly either. I'm not an expert on expensive hand made cases but they just don't look right to me, especially not for several hundred dollars per case. I found this case on eBay for under $50.00 USA including shipping. It appears to fit better than that Italian case and did I mention it was under fifty bucks? I thought so. Also, this half case doesn't appear to be available in any other color or with a cutout for a thumb rest. ------------ Any thoughts? --------------- They look much better in italian leather... http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-kundenforum/174360-luigi-cases-3.html#post1677693 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted September 15, 2011 Share #59 Posted September 15, 2011 I found this case on eBay for under $50.00 USA including shipping. It appears to fit better than that Italian case and did I mention it was under fifty bucks? I thought so. ------------ Any thoughts? --------------- Yes, I have some thoughts... This is not leather...this is plastic. There is a difference. With a plastic tool you can make very repeatable parts, so I'm glad you think it fits better than a genuine hand crafted leather case. This "Leica Case" is made of the same "leather" as all those fake Gucci and Louis Vuitton handbags that China is so famous for. Most people can't tell the difference, probably because our standards over the last 20 years have been so drummed down. You will also find this material, which is actually polyurethane, is very water repellant and will not shrink or swell due to environmental conditions. You will however start to see surface cracks in a matter of months followed by the material delaminating, most probably at the edges nearest the fasteners, which will themselves corrode as the fake gold or brass or whatever color was applied looses cohesion with the base metal (zinc or tin lead). You paid $50? That equals $48 worth of profit to the Chinese supplier. In Shenzhen there is a famous saying that loosely translated goes, "Maybe customer not notice!!!!" You can get reasonable quality leather cases from Asia. Zhou makes a pretty good one. So do Cieste, Artisan & Artist and Wotancraft. IMHO Luigi is the best, because his leather is of superior quality and his tanning techniques are exceptional. What you have is crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billib Posted September 15, 2011 Author Share #60 Posted September 15, 2011 You got me curious so I heated a needle in the gas flame on my stove till its tip was glowing RED. I then poked the inside of the Chinese plastic case and, well, its not plastic. Its not plether. Its leather. They'er now on eBay for $70.00 USA. I should have kept my mouth shut. At less than $50.00, I would also like a Black case for when the M's feeling depressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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