honcho Posted August 18, 2011 Share #21 Posted August 18, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) ....."Due to the discontinuation of an integral component, production of the Leica MP and Leica MP ‘a la carte’ has been temporarily halted. Oh no. I suppose that means I'll be seeing the used value of my MP go up. ;-D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 18, 2011 Posted August 18, 2011 Hi honcho, Take a look here MP production temporarily stopped (apparently) . I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
adan Posted August 18, 2011 Share #22 Posted August 18, 2011 Does anyone know the actual relationship of the Leica Portugal factory to Leica Camera (Solms) these days? I notice that Leica Geosystems and Leica Microsystems (now completely separate companies) also seem to use this factory - originally built and operated when E. Leitz was one company - as a supplier. So is it owned by Leica Camera, or Geosystems, or Microsystems? - or now an independently-owned (or jointly-owned) company supplying all three? So far as I can tell, the only parts used soley for the MP are: - the shutter clockwork (the M7 shares the rubberized-silk curtains, shutter light traps, etc.) - the top plate, shutter dial, film wind lever, and rewind knob, which I think are machined by Uwe Weller along with all the other external metal parts of all M cameras, and thus unlikely to be the problem - the flash sync system (no ttl flash metering, simple single-contact hot shoe) I tend to suspect the hot shoe may be the problem - it is the one item that is probably acquired "off the shelf" - and has been dropped by a supplier as unprofitable in this era of dedicated multi-contact hot shoes. The sharkskin covering is used on the steel-paint M9 as well as the MP, btw. __________ A side note - Uwe Weller also does metal machining for both Leica Microsystems and Zeiss's Sports Optics (Zeiss-Hensoldt) division. Which gets back to my original question - there seem to be byzantine connections between a subset of the German optical companies that make Japanese keiretsus seem simple by comparison Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted August 18, 2011 Share #23 Posted August 18, 2011 removed, have not learned to read and comprehend yet. Maybe when I get to 70 in a year or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeplanter Posted August 18, 2011 Share #24 Posted August 18, 2011 My guess (and that's all it is) is that the problem has something to do with the electronics. Jim B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafoofan Posted August 20, 2011 Share #25 Posted August 20, 2011 Isn't it odd that Robert White is the only dealer reporting this, and that they are reporting it at all? Even if true, I don't think it's a development Leica would want published. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted October 24, 2011 Share #26 Posted October 24, 2011 I tried to order a new MP via the Leica 'A la carte' web page last night and chose Red Dot as the dealer. This morning Ivan of Red Dot kindly rang me to inform me that "production will not restart until Jan or Feb and that the production process takes eight weeks." On that basis, it looks like March/April at the earliest before a delivery could be expected (depending on where an order is in the queue). To reserve a place in said queue would require a 20% deposit. Am now looking for an M2 or M4 instead... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest srheker Posted October 24, 2011 Share #27 Posted October 24, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) - the shutter clockwork (the M7 shares the rubberized-silk curtains, shutter light traps, etc.) - the top plate, shutter dial, film wind lever, and rewind knob, which I think are machined by Uwe Weller along with all the other external metal parts of all M cameras, and thus unlikely to be the problem - the flash sync system (no ttl flash metering, simple single-contact hot shoe) I tend to suspect the hot shoe may be the problem I dont think that the hot shoe is "from the shelf" as Leica has a quite unique contact design, as the contacts aren't round like on most other cameras. The MP has electronics. And it has apparently different electronics than the M7 or M9. I think one can assume, that the MP electronics are based on the M6 which means "electronics from the early 80's". So it could very well be that one of the parts needed has been discontinued by the supplier (or is temporarily not available due to the catastrophe in Japan). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share #28 Posted October 24, 2011 Tom Abrahamsson has commented somewhere (RFF?) that Leica told him the problem was related to the mechanical part(s) which govern the shutter speed timing. This makes obvious sense and is what most of us suspected. Apparently Leica's third party supplier no longer makes the part and Leica have decided to make it in-house. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted October 24, 2011 Share #29 Posted October 24, 2011 Maybe a new plastic part? By the way, january or february are just around the corner. No biggie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeplanter Posted October 24, 2011 Share #30 Posted October 24, 2011 ......I think one can assume, that the MP electronics are based on the M6 which means "electronics from the early 80's". So it could very well be that one of the parts needed has been discontinued by the supplier (or is temporarily not available due to the catastrophe in Japan). Puts reports that the electronics in the MP are much different than what is used in the M6. See this: MP Jim B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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