newtoleica Posted June 15, 2011 Share #21 Posted June 15, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I get this occasionally: Auto power off. Grab a shot without waking the camera up first. Shutter sounds slightly different. Frame is full size but black. - my solution. I carry 3 batteries and I don't use auto power off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vladik Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share #22 Posted June 15, 2011 No discreet mode used, I usually (95 %) use manual mode. It has happened again since my original post on 19.5.11. Battery OK, before and after frames are perfect. I have sent a letter to Leica with detailed description of this occurence, but no answer as yet. I hope that Leica can find out as to what is causing this problem and rectifie it. I'll keep you posted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted June 16, 2011 Share #23 Posted June 16, 2011 I had this happen just once since Nov 2009. The shutter made a strange noise and the frame was black. Has not happened again, and it is not going to cause me to send the camera in. Same thing happened to me once with my one week old M9. I was fearing at first, it is an abnorm of the known old M8 shutter recocking issue, which can only be cured by removing the battery, as of the similar sound of several shutter recocks. I shut the camera off, removed and reinserted the battery, set the camera on and everything was fine since then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted June 16, 2011 Share #24 Posted June 16, 2011 I believe briefly turning dial off A does the same - e.g. when taking a photo with lens cap on. K-H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markgay Posted June 16, 2011 Share #25 Posted June 16, 2011 I don't recall a black frame but I got a double exposure in the early days of my M8 in just such a situation of wake up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted June 16, 2011 Share #26 Posted June 16, 2011 I cannot recall ever getting a black frame in ten months. Occasionally I fail to remove a lens hood cap but I switch off and start again with just lost time. It has never happened with a critical shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpowershot Posted March 4, 2012 Share #27 Posted March 4, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) It happened to mine brand new M9-P too. Black frame, file size normal... Indoor temperature. Hmmm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted March 4, 2012 Share #28 Posted March 4, 2012 It happened to mine brand new M9-P too. Black frame, file size normal... Indoor temperature. Hmmm Interesting. Which memory card did you use? Any other details you can recall? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpowershot Posted March 5, 2012 Share #29 Posted March 5, 2012 Panasonic SDHC Gold Pro 8GB. Auto Power Off is set to 1min... I don't think this caused this problem. On my first M9 i did not have this issue...(same card, same settings) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafster Posted March 5, 2012 Share #30 Posted March 5, 2012 It happened to mine brand new M9-P too. Black frame, file size normal... Indoor temperature. Hmmm Experience in my M9-P as well. Need to remove and reinserted the battery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Pedley Posted March 5, 2012 Share #31 Posted March 5, 2012 Since writing post #12 in this thread, the incidences have become significantly less frequent. Not sure if the concept of "wearing in" of a component/assembly is relevant, however, my camera is now at a point where I can say it has been black-frame-free for three or four months with no reduction in the number of images I am shooting. The bug has aged and died! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeicaPassion Posted March 5, 2012 Share #32 Posted March 5, 2012 I experienced several black frames (M9) the second time I used it. In the 14 months since then, it has not reoccurred. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalpowershot Posted March 5, 2012 Share #33 Posted March 5, 2012 My local Leica shop called me after they and Leica CS received my email: first they said it could be the sd card, which could be too slow Panasonic Gold Pro is the fastest availabe. Then it could be too fast or the shutter could be the problem if the same problem occures with a different card as well. But I've received the info that a new firmware will eliminate the black frame problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Morte Posted March 5, 2012 Share #34 Posted March 5, 2012 I also had the double exposure with one press-release towards the end of last year. No black frames though. Since the new software update no reoccurrence yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted March 5, 2012 Share #35 Posted March 5, 2012 My local Leica shop called me after they and Leica CS received my email: first they said it could be the sd card, which could be too slow Panasonic Gold Pro is the fastest availabe. Then it could be too fast or the shutter could be the problem if the same problem occures with a different card as well. But I've received the info that a new firmware will eliminate the black frame problem. Many thanks. A better M9 firmware would certainly help. It's reassuring that Leica is still working on that. I got some black frames when I first got my M9 (2009-12-31). As I was completely new to Leica, I was just puzzled a bit, deleted the frames and moved on. Back then I used a SanDisk card and was shooting brackets of 5 or seven shots at around freezing temperature. It doesn't sound like your Panasonic Gold Pro card is the culprit though. That's good to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladik Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share #36 Posted March 6, 2012 Leica replaced shutter in M9 under warranty before the end of 2011. I used the camera occasionally without black frame problem until late February 2012. Now; when the black frame reoccured: battery 85 % charged, using SanDisk Extreme 30 MB/s 16 GB, ambient temp. 18 oC, Firmware 1.62. Prevous and subsequent frames to black one absolutely perfect. I new immediatelly as the shutter does not soun normal. No more black frames since then after taking about 80 exposures. I will be letting Leica know to help to resolve this problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubes Posted June 14, 2012 Share #37 Posted June 14, 2012 Well, it happened to me for the first time today. I was out at lunch taking a few random shots, battery over 80% charged, memory card (Panasonic Gold 8 gb SDHC Class 10) about 1/3 full, firmware 1.162, manual exposure mode, single shot (not discreet) mode. Happened twice, first time in landscape orientation and the second in portrait orientation. Both times I ended up with a blank frame. Since I was actively metering and changing exposure settings, the camera was not coming out of sleep mode. Today is sunny and pleasant in NYC for a change, temps in the 70s F. Fortunately, these were static subjects so I could re-take the shot, but in almost a year it's the first time it's happened, which is disconcerting. If this recurs, I'll give Leica NJ a call. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haat01 Posted January 3, 2013 Share #38 Posted January 3, 2013 I had a M8 since 2007 and now get a New M9P latest firmware 1.198 get black frame already when I pic up the M99P in the shop and then around one black frame every 20 to 30 shutter fires. The frame is completely black. The last three is with flash D24 but before it was in ordinary indoor photo both in DNG and JPG I only have save the last three JPG is small file like 460 to 560 bite the DNG is normal file size like 17,4 MB. I use ScanDisc Extreme 32 GB class 10 45MB/s class 1 (10) Made in China. It has always occur in single shoot mode and now with flash there you most wait until the flash get charge up so no hurry for the buffer. I am rely worried Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haat01 Posted January 10, 2013 Share #39 Posted January 10, 2013 I got black frame with my new M9P every 30-40 frame no diffrent sond file size somtime small like 500 kb and some time big 18,7 MB have chance to my old Ulitma II who I hade for 5 years in my M8 with no problem more frekvent with flash D24. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haat01 Posted January 10, 2014 Share #40 Posted January 10, 2014 The M9P went to Leica Solon for repair back and good for 6 month but now black frame again only with SF-24 D. The flash go of but the file will only be 366 to 388 k bite and completely black I don't any specific sound. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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