sean_reid Posted January 31, 2007 Author Share #21 Â Posted January 31, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Wayne, Â No, I don't agree at all. He just made a lot of pictures...but the successful and unsuccessful frames were all intentional. There was nothing random or accidental at all about the way he worked. A photographer who was not Winogrand could have made 100,000 pictures in those airports, working for ten years, and might not make a single frame as strong as what he made there. In fact, its likely. Â Winogrand (who was a friend of my friend Ben Lifson) did not "shot gun" his pictures, he was just very prolific. People often confuse the two. The best way to understand this would be to look at the contact sheets in Arizona so that you could see what he was doing, what the variations were, etc. Â Obsession, absolutely...but he knew what made a picture a picture and he could make them again and again. He's one who really learned from the painters and who understood what it was to make a figure in the landscape. Â When you mention him waving the camera like a wand, don't forget that a good NBA player can often make a perfect basket without ever looking at the backboard. A concert pianist doesn't have to look at the keys to know what his hands are doing -- what sounds they're making. Â The body learn amazing things with talent and practice and Winogrand may have practiced more than any other photographer in the world. I put my fingers down on piano keys without looking at them and the sound will be random (and probably horrible). But I don't assume that to also be true for a concert pianist - I don't project myself into him or her. Beethoven put his fingers down and he knew what would happen. Same for Uchida, etc. Winogrand knew how to draw with that camera. Â This might be an interesting time to reread James Agee's introduction to Helen Levitt's "A Way of Seeing". Â Best, Â Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted January 31, 2007 Share #22 Â Posted January 31, 2007 It mentions that foreign customers pay by credit card, I think. Send them an email in English, and I am sure there is someone there who can read and answer it. Germans speak a quite competent English in general, although you have to pressure them a bit to use it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted January 31, 2007 Share #23 Â Posted January 31, 2007 Thanks Lode and Carsten. I'll do that - send them an email. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokysun Posted January 31, 2007 Share #24  Posted January 31, 2007 hi sean,  as you know, i like to play the devil's advocate. and i agree with you absolutely on buying inspiring books. over the past year i've bought a couple hundred books instead of buying lenses. taking chances, i've gotten many of them from amazon, disappointed sometimes and many times not.  for example two very inexpensive ones:  Amazon.com: Healing Waters: Books: Yves Treguer,Linda Troeller,Wolfgang Becker  Amazon.com: Sumo: Books: Makoto Kubota  it's pretty amazing what's out there. i came back with a boxful from berkeley at xmas. they've at least four used bookstores within a few blocks of each other and i couldn't believe some of the bargains i found.  i agree: get them while you can. and if you want to do an article, i can post a list, ones that fulfilled promise, others that didn't. they do help with focus and projects.  keep up the good work.  wayne  ps. anybody who lives in manhatten is especially lucky! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lode Posted February 26, 2007 Share #25 Â Posted February 26, 2007 Arrivals & Departures arrived today, as well as Figments From The Real World. No doubt, Winogrand is a great a photographer, a real artist and a source of inspiration. I enjoy these books. Thanks for the tip, Sean. Lode Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted February 26, 2007 Share #26  Posted February 26, 2007 I have ordered also but reminds me of another title I wanted my daughter to purchase for me in MADRID, but couldn't make the time to find it.I tried to find it here in US but no luck other than Abes books @ 100 dollars plus used.The store does not have a good reputation so I am reluctant to order from them. Any one have a lead please let me know & thanks in advance,(I did find it in Madrid @ Corte Ingles(Madrid) & may try to order from there if I can't find it here."Garry Winogrand. El juego de la fotografÃa"As an addendum received a call today for an M8 on order since October-I asked for first one in & it's black. Will pick up in the afternoon. Next up a few lenses.I've read extensively over the past few months & thanks to all for the information.Now another decision!  That book is edited by the Fundación Canal Isabel II (http://www.fundacioncanal.com/) They have copies at the Exhibition Hall (the Water Tower) of the Sala de Exposiciones del Canal de Isabel II, Santa Engracia Street, n 125 (Metro: RÃos Rosas), Madrid. The book is the catalogue of a previous exhibition of Winogrand's photographs. It is very well edited (hardback) and the photographs are great. Good prints.  This is the address:  http://www.masdearte.com/guia_ver_ficha.cfm?id=32  C/ Santa Engracia, 125 28003 Madrid Comunidad de Madrid, España Teléfono: 00 + 34 91 545 10 00 e-mail: isabel.escribano@comadrid.es Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Flatline Posted February 26, 2007 Share #27 Â Posted February 26, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Btw, what a GREAT book. Arrivals and Departures should be in everyone's collection! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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