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Which wide to add to this lens set for M9


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I own both the 28mm Summicron and a 21 f/2.8 Zeiss. I use them both and find the perspectives very different. Both are useful. Both are superb lenses.

 

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How does the Zeiss 21 f/2.8 work with the M9's framelimes. I am wondering since I am likely to buy this lens.

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How about a Zeiss 18 / 4 Distagon?

Does anyone have experience with it?

 

I use this lens a lot - much more than my Leica 21. I'm not into selling lenses, but if I did, this might be the one to go - but I won't because it has the low light edge over both the Leica and Zeiss 18mm offerings.

 

IMHO 18 Zeiss + 28/50/90 will give you a very useful setup... 135 apo telyt one day?

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How does the Zeiss 21 f/2.8 work with the M9's framelimes. I am wondering since I am likely to buy this lens.

 

The M finder has no frames wider than 28mm. You will have to use an accessory finder – or guess your way.

 

Normally, the lens is delivered with a bayonet that keys in the 50+75mm frames. If you want to code the lens as a 21mm Elmarit (ASPH or pre-ASPH) you will have to order it with a bayonet for the 28+90mm frames.

 

The old man from the Age of the Enigma Codes

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The M finder has no frames wider than 28mm. You will have to use an accessory finder – or guess your way.

 

Normally, the lens is delivered with a bayonet that keys in the 50+75mm frames. If you want to code the lens as a 21mm Elmarit (ASPH or pre-ASPH) you will have to order it with a bayonet for the 28+90mm frames.

 

The old man from the Age of the Enigma Codes

 

Thank you very much. Of course, I'm aware of the fact that there are no frames wider than 28 mm but I didn't know that the code is keyed in by the bayonet. However, I'm wondering why Zeiss installs a bayonet keying in 50+75 mm frames in a 25 mm lens. Thanks a lot again.

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The Zeiss ZM 18mm Distagon is one heck of a good lens. Zeiss quality throughout – and like Leica, Carl Zeiss has a reputation to defend.

 

The lens should be ordered with its regular bayonet for the 50+75mm frames if you want to code it as a Super-Elmar. But mine is coded as a pre-ASPH 21mm Elmarit (28+90) with good results.

 

The old man from the Age of the Hologon

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Dear Cary – by now you will have learned that asking a bunch of Leica photographers about the best lens to choose will provide you with as many different answers as there are individuals in that gaggle – at a minimum.

 

Lens focal lengths are like shoes. Somebody else may be able to tell you what size might fit you, but not if it will actually fit! Only you can decide that. Be advised however that very wide lenses are tricky to handle, even trickier to compose with, and we do not use them very frequently. I am very much a 35mm man. I supplement my 35mm lenses with a Zeiss 25mm Biogon, which may well be the best of all the ZM lenses, and I do very seldom feel the urge for something wider. When I do, I haul out my 18mm Distagon.

 

The old man from the Age of the Hologon

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If you are planning to use the lens for architecture, bear in mind that the 18 F3.8 SE has a some visible moustache-type distortion at the edges, whihc is noticeable in straight lines and is difficult to correct. The Zeiss 18mm has much less distortion. Peter

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However, I'm wondering why Zeiss installs a bayonet keying in 50+75 mm frames in a (15) mm lens.

 

Like Leica they didn't anticipate the need for UV/IR correction and as there isn't a Leica coupled frameline wider than 28mm, I guess they didn't think the bayonet keying would be relevant.

 

Happily, they'll supply you with a 28/90mm bayonet which you can code or even mill yourself. They'll either post it or you can send your lens to them.

 

I opted to send the lens for Zeiss to change the mount as they said they'd check everything was square.

 

One dot of permanent ink and I was set.

 

To be honest, I use the WATE more than the Distagon. That surprises me, because as a beast, the 15/2.8 is phantasmagoircal.

 

I love it more than the WATE but I use the WATE more*.

 

Regards,

Mark

 

* Practical is not the same as great or even fun.

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