Guest polygamer Posted November 29, 2013 Share #1641 Posted November 29, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi, ich habe irgendwie den Eindruck, daß die Korrektur-App in der SONY NEX-6 auch Nebenwirkungen hat, daß Farbsättigung und Kontrast verloren gehen. Ich zeige 3 Bilder: Das Setting, einen Crop ohne Korrektur, einen mit, beide Offenblende mit dem Leica Summarit an der NEX-6. Ein nicht allzu nachdenliches Wochenende (auch bezüglich künftiger Korrekturmöglichkeiten in der SONY A7/R), wünscht polygamer! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/134379-m9-ersatzkamera-sony-nex-3/?do=findComment&comment=2476435'>More sharing options...
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Guest polygamer Posted November 30, 2013 Share #1642 Posted November 30, 2013 Hi, eines dieser berüchtigten mobilen Foto-Studios, die schlechte, teure Bilder von Autofahrern machen (NEX-6, Leica Summarit 2,5/35), grüßt polyamer! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/134379-m9-ersatzkamera-sony-nex-3/?do=findComment&comment=2476938'>More sharing options...
Guest polygamer Posted December 1, 2013 Share #1643 Posted December 1, 2013 Hi, gute Nachrichten: Das 12er Heliar funktioniert an der A7: A7 mit Voigtlaender Ultra Wide Heliar 12mm 5.6 - Systemkamera Forum Besinnliche Bilder zum Advent, grüßt polygamer! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/134379-m9-ersatzkamera-sony-nex-3/?do=findComment&comment=2477705'>More sharing options...
Guest polygamer Posted December 2, 2013 Share #1644 Posted December 2, 2013 Hi, für Interessierte ein Link zu einem hervorragenden Test von 8 ZEISS ZM Objektiven und dem 12er Voigtländer an der SONY A7: Zeiss ZM Objektiv Vergleich an A7 - Systemkamera Forum grüßt polygamer! Somit wächst mein nutzbarer Objektiv-Bestand! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest polygamer Posted December 2, 2013 Share #1645 Posted December 2, 2013 Hi, der Zecher mit dem Becher vor dem Proviantamt in Mainz, eines meiner Models ... NEX-6, Leica Summarit 2,5/35, offen, grüßt polygamer! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/134379-m9-ersatzkamera-sony-nex-3/?do=findComment&comment=2478612'>More sharing options...
Guest polygamer Posted December 2, 2013 Share #1646 Posted December 2, 2013 Hi, ein Bericht über M Mount Objektive an der SONY A7R mit einigen sehr kritischen Anmerkungen A weekend with the Sony A7R grüßt polygamer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted December 2, 2013 Share #1647 Posted December 2, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi, ein Bericht über M Mount Objektive an der SONY A7R mit einigen sehr kritischen Anmerkungen A weekend with the Sony A7R grüßt polygamer! Danke. Na ja, eigentlich nichts Neues was die Kamera und Linsen betrifft. Alles schon durchgekaut an verschiedenen Webseiten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest polygamer Posted December 2, 2013 Share #1648 Posted December 2, 2013 Na ja, vielleicht lese ich genauer ... Denn selbst bislang unproblematsiche Brennweiten und Objektive zeigen unerwartete Effekte, wie das folgende Zitat von der S. Huff Webseite darlegt: "So was all well in the world?!? Well, in a word, NO! As I started to look around at images, I began to see a few issues with colorcast. Given the way the rangefinder lenses manipulate and bend light, I could easily see colorcasts and detail smearing at the edges of the images made with lenses wider than 28 mm. Once I pulled out my 28 mm Summicron, I was slightly more satisfied, as there was no substantial detail smearing, but the color casts, while less objectionable, remained. At times, the edges would take on a magenta hue. In other circumstances, a slightly bluish hue. The effect seemed to be far less noticeable for 35 mm lenses such as the 35 mm f/1.4 Summilux Asph Pre-FLE and FLE, but it is still there and noticeable if shooting shots of the sky or uniformly bright, backlit scenes, such as the “foggy morning” captures presented here. What surprised me is that I found this color shifting and vignetting to be present at times even with my 50 mm f/1.4 Summilux aspherical. It turns out that M lenses are really demanding on these full frame sensors, demanding enough that Leica once claimed it to be impossible to design a full frame digital rangefinder. Well, they eventually did find away, but it took a lot of cunning, know how, and a bunch of in-camera color cast correction applied to RAW files before they ever got onto Lightroom. Unfortunately, the Sony A7R does not have such software corrections. It’s offset microlenses do not suffice to correct these color casts, so if you decide to buy this camera and shoot your RF lenses, be prepared for some frustration and to adjust your post-processing techniques to accommodate for these matters. There are programs, such as SilkyPix, a RAW converter that allow one to create lens profiles and correct such color casts. There are workarounds in Lightroom 5.3, such as using the digital graduated ND filter creatively, that help reduce the effect of these color shifts. One other issues is chromatic aberration, which tends to show itself when lenses are pitted against demanding sensors. In fact, lense such as the Noctilux f/0.95, which have known CA issues, seem to even more prone to showing CA on the A7R. In summary if you are looking to seamlessly shoot your M lenses on the A7R, be prepared to pause." Meine A7 wurde versandt. Da kann ich bald meine eigene Objektivauswahl treffen, grüßt polygamer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted December 2, 2013 Share #1649 Posted December 2, 2013 Na ja, vielleicht lese ich genauer ... Denn selbst bislang unproblematsiche Brennweiten und Objektive zeigen unerwartete Effekte, wie das folgende Zitat von der S. Huff Webseite darlegt: "So was all well in the world?!? Well, in a word, NO! As I started to look around at images, I began to see a few issues with colorcast. Given the way the rangefinder lenses manipulate and bend light, I could easily see colorcasts and detail smearing at the edges of the images made with lenses wider than 28 mm. Once I pulled out my 28 mm Summicron, I was slightly more satisfied, as there was no substantial detail smearing, but the color casts, while less objectionable, remained. At times, the edges would take on a magenta hue. In other circumstances, a slightly bluish hue. The effect seemed to be far less noticeable for 35 mm lenses such as the 35 mm f/1.4 Summilux Asph Pre-FLE and FLE, but it is still there and noticeable if shooting shots of the sky or uniformly bright, backlit scenes, such as the “foggy morning” captures presented here. What surprised me is that I found this color shifting and vignetting to be present at times even with my 50 mm f/1.4 Summilux aspherical. It turns out that M lenses are really demanding on these full frame sensors, demanding enough that Leica once claimed it to be impossible to design a full frame digital rangefinder. Well, they eventually did find away, but it took a lot of cunning, know how, and a bunch of in-camera color cast correction applied to RAW files before they ever got onto Lightroom. Unfortunately, the Sony A7R does not have such software corrections. It’s offset microlenses do not suffice to correct these color casts, so if you decide to buy this camera and shoot your RF lenses, be prepared for some frustration and to adjust your post-processing techniques to accommodate for these matters. There are programs, such as SilkyPix, a RAW converter that allow one to create lens profiles and correct such color casts. There are workarounds in Lightroom 5.3, such as using the digital graduated ND filter creatively, that help reduce the effect of these color shifts. One other issues is chromatic aberration, which tends to show itself when lenses are pitted against demanding sensors. In fact, lense such as the Noctilux f/0.95, which have known CA issues, seem to even more prone to showing CA on the A7R. In summary if you are looking to seamlessly shoot your M lenses on the A7R, be prepared to pause." Meine A7 wurde versandt. Da kann ich bald meine eigene Objektivauswahl treffen, grüßt polygamer! Danke. Das ist mir nicht entgangen, war aber vom Inhalt her nicht neu. Es wurde bereits besonders ausführlich auf fredmiranda.com diskutiert. Bis wenigstens 50 mm muß man alle M Linsen, die man hat, überprüfen, auch die WATE. R Linsen scheinen nicht so anfällig zu sein. Ich habe auch ein paar Nikkor Linsen die mich interessieren, z.B die Noct Nikkor 58/1.2. Folgt man getdpi.com gibt es noch einige preiswerte alte Linsen die sehr gut an der A7R aussehen. Ich habe bereits eine solche Linse äußerst billig ersteigert, 24-35 mm Zoom. Gegebenfalls werde ich noch einige weitere billige aber gute Linsen mir zulegen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest polygamer Posted December 3, 2013 Share #1650 Posted December 3, 2013 Hi, während bisher die allemein akzeptierte Auffassung war, daß es ab 35mm keine Probleme gibt, können diese offenbar an der A7R unter Umständen doch auftreten. Man kann also schwerlich generalisieren. Vieleicht urteilt S. Huff undifferenzierter, um es sich mit seinen Förderern nicht zu verderben ... Für mich und die erwartete A7 sieht es aufgrund meiner Einschätzung vorliegender Berichte gut aus für die Brennweiten 12, 18, 24, 35(?), 50, 75, 90 und 135. Eines meiner 4 35er wird wohl funktionieren, mit dem 15er Voigtländer rechne ich nicht, bei den 21ern höchstens mit dem 2,8/21 ASPH, das 25 ZEISS ist ungeklärt an der A7, ebenso das 2,8/28 Leica ASPH. Insgesamt sieht es aber doch recht gut aus, grüßt polygamer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest polygamer Posted December 3, 2013 Share #1651 Posted December 3, 2013 Hi, neulich war wieder ein Eichhörnchen im Garten. Zum "Anlocken" ein Archivbild, grüßt polygamer! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/134379-m9-ersatzkamera-sony-nex-3/?do=findComment&comment=2479379'>More sharing options...
Guest polygamer Posted December 4, 2013 Share #1652 Posted December 4, 2013 Hi, der Fastnachtsbrunnen auf dem Schillerplatz in Mainz (NEX-6, Leica Summarit 35). Heute wurde meine KB SONY A7 geliefert. Wenn es Euch nichts ausmacht, werde ich auch damit hier ein paar Bilder und meine ersten Probeaufnahmen zeigen, grüßt polygamer! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/134379-m9-ersatzkamera-sony-nex-3/?do=findComment&comment=2480077'>More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted December 4, 2013 Share #1653 Posted December 4, 2013 Hi, der Fastnachtsbrunnen auf dem Schillerplatz in Mainz (NEX-6, Leica Summarit 35). Heute wurde meine KB SONY A7 geliefert. Wenn es Euch nichts ausmacht, werde ich auch damit hier ein paar Bilder und meine ersten Probeaufnahmen zeigen, grüßt polygamer! Da bin ich mal gespannt! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest polygamer Posted December 4, 2013 Share #1654 Posted December 4, 2013 Da bin ich mal gespannt! Hi, zunächst werde ich Probebilder machen, um herauszufinden, welche Objektive nicht funktionieren. Und dann dürfen mich die Gewinner auf Foto-Touren begleiten, grüßt polygamer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted December 4, 2013 Share #1655 Posted December 4, 2013 :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest polygamer Posted December 5, 2013 Share #1656 Posted December 5, 2013 Hi, ein "Farbbild" vom Mainzer Markt (Summarit 35, NEX-6) und ein Link zu meinem ersten A7 Bericht Messsucher Objektive (Leica M, M39, Contax G & Co.) an Sony KB E-Mount - Seite 80 - Systemkamera Forum grüßt polygamer(immodoc)! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/134379-m9-ersatzkamera-sony-nex-3/?do=findComment&comment=2480798'>More sharing options...
Guest polygamer Posted December 6, 2013 Share #1657 Posted December 6, 2013 Hi, der Wachposten vor Oehling in Mainz (NEX-6, Summarit 35, offen). Einen Vergleich des Voigtländer 5,6/12 an A7 und M9 zeige ich ab #802 Messsucher Objektive (Leica M, M39, Contax G & Co.) an Sony KB E-Mount - Seite 81 - Systemkamera Forum Ein schönes Wochenende, wünschen polygamer und immodoc! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/134379-m9-ersatzkamera-sony-nex-3/?do=findComment&comment=2481679'>More sharing options...
K-Photo Posted December 6, 2013 Share #1658 Posted December 6, 2013 Hi, ein "Farbbild" vom Mainzer Markt (Summarit 35, NEX-6) und ein Link zu meinem ersten A7 Bericht Schöner Link, hilft nur LUF-Usern wenig. Unregistriert sieht man die Bilder nicht und Registrierungsversuche mit div. Emailadressen werden dort so abgewickelt. Registration denied, this forum runs an active policy of not allowing spammers. Please contact us via the "Contact Us" page link if you believe this is in error Gruß Jochen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest polygamer Posted December 6, 2013 Share #1659 Posted December 6, 2013 Schöner Link, hilft nur LUF-Usern wenig. Unregistriert sieht man die Bilder nicht und Registrierungsversuche mit div. Emailadressen werden dort so abgewickelt. Sorry, für das Forum kann ich keine Verantwortung übernehmen. Ich bin in beiden Foren registriert, und aktiv. Es geht also! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest polygamer Posted December 7, 2013 Share #1660 Posted December 7, 2013 Hi, ein Narr vor einem Gebäude der Landesregierung (NEX-6, Summarit 35, offen). Ein schönes Wochende, wünscht polygamer! Zugabe: SONY a7 mit ZEISS Distagon 4/18, auch mit M9 #835ff: Messsucher Objektive (Leica M, M39, Contax G & Co.) an Sony KB E-Mount - Seite 84 - Systemkamera Forum Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/134379-m9-ersatzkamera-sony-nex-3/?do=findComment&comment=2482021'>More sharing options...
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