RichardM8 Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share #201 Posted October 14, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, I've got 24 hrs then to convince him to get rid of the tourist toy camera. I usually get my man. As I took the M8 back to my dealer, I also got my X1 back. Somehow it doesn't look and feel the same anymore... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MikeD700 Posted October 14, 2010 Share #202 Posted October 14, 2010 I'm a psychic... feels a bit light now doesn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThorkilB Posted October 14, 2010 Share #203 Posted October 14, 2010 28 (if not 24). . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD700 Posted October 14, 2010 Share #204 Posted October 14, 2010 To be totally honest, he should start out with the 50 Summicron only, and use that as his ONLY lens for at least a year, to learn what rf photography really is. The rest (35, 90) might come later, but will only distract him now. A 35 to start with as only lens will be too limiting on too many occasions. IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardM8 Posted October 14, 2010 Author Share #205 Posted October 14, 2010 I think that 35 is the most versatile focal length of all... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted October 14, 2010 Share #206 Posted October 14, 2010 if your shots are going to be more faces than landscapes go with the 50, 50/50 use the 35. i have the 35 cron and absolutely love it .... first time that when i look on the computer i see a photograph rather than a digital image...50mm lux could be better but so would a lot of money in the bank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD700 Posted October 14, 2010 Share #207 Posted October 14, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) 50 Summicron. It teaches one to live with one lens, replicates (almost) the human eye angle of view and saves money on both the 35 Summicron and the 50 Summilux. Who needs f1.4 anyway? Or is the high ISO performance of the M9 so dismal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD700 Posted October 14, 2010 Share #208 Posted October 14, 2010 I think that 35 is the most versatile focal length of all... Rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimver Posted October 14, 2010 Share #209 Posted October 14, 2010 Rubbish. hilarious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD700 Posted October 14, 2010 Share #210 Posted October 14, 2010 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mboerma Posted October 14, 2010 Share #211 Posted October 14, 2010 The last thing I want to say to Richard is that since the beginning of this thread I noticed that he use an exclamation mark instead of a question mark in his topic title. I think you knew from the beginning what the answer was going to be. The color of the M9 doesn't really matter and the focal length of the lens doesn't really matter. Just get the camera and pick a lens and shoot. Say "Hi" to Pieter for me. BTW, did you see the PM I send you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Murray-White Posted October 14, 2010 Share #212 Posted October 14, 2010 I heard a strange thing the other day that it was technically illegal to sell Leicas in the Netherlands because of some European law that says technical products had to be able to conform (intruction manual and in camera menus) to the language of the country in which they were sold. Australia is a very long way from Europe so I guess I could have really wrong - Pieter would know surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egrossman Posted October 14, 2010 Share #213 Posted October 14, 2010 Living with a 50mm Summicron is very good advice as a sole lens is a great way to learn what you need. In addition to my 50mm Summicron I rushed out and bought the 28mm Summicron only to find that I use the 50 more than 90% of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardM8 Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share #214 Posted October 15, 2010 The last thing I want to say to Richard is that since the beginning of this thread I noticed that he use an exclamation mark instead of a question mark in his topic title. I think you knew from the beginning what the answer was going to be. Heheheheh.... that was a typo Maarten. It should have been a question mark. But it seems that you can't edit a tread-title once submitted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveSFO Posted October 15, 2010 Share #215 Posted October 15, 2010 Richard... I know how you feel. I went from a Nikon D3S and a bunch of lenses to now an M9. The bulk and weight (those pro lenses are big and heavy) was taking it's toll and now I have some medical issues with my neck and shoulders. But I too wanted that "Leica" look in my images and bought an X1. The problem is that, like you, I lusted for an M. The X1 is great except for the autofocus speed. What I found missing is the ability to re-learn how to focus and have full creative control over this tool called a camera. The only thing left was the "M". A Zeiss lens that I bought for the D3S moved me a lot closer and tempted me even more for an "M". My dealer (Camera West) took in an M8 in mint condition. I was a lot cheaper than an M9 and I decided to do it. Just like my DSLR's - a crop sensor wasn't doing it for me..... I wanted the M9. I traded in the M8 + 3 prized Nikkor lenses (14-24, 24-70, 200-400) to fund the M9. The day finally arrived when the M9 came in. Although it has seriously hurt my bank account, I can tell you that the amount of enjoyment and the ability to do the photography I like (Street/Journalism), this camera is the perfect tool. If you are from the old school and want complete manual control, you can't go wrong with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardM8 Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share #216 Posted October 15, 2010 Thank you for your thoughts Steve. Well if it's going to be the M9 I guess shots like this will be rare, if not impossible. Shot with the X1 on ISO 1600 f/2.8. Stunning imo. High ISO is one of the X1s trump cards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD700 Posted October 15, 2010 Share #217 Posted October 15, 2010 Thank you for your thoughts Steve. Well if it's going to be the M9 I guess shots like this will be rare, if not impossible. Shot with the X1 on ISO 1600 f/2.8. Stunning imo. High ISO is one of the X1s trump cards. "if it's going to be the M9". Oh no, the horror, the horror ("l'horreur, l'horreur"; Last tango in Paris). This is like "Groundhog day". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardM8 Posted October 15, 2010 Author Share #218 Posted October 15, 2010 No need to quote the picture too... "if it's going to be the M9". This is like "Groundhog day". Great movie!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThorkilB Posted October 15, 2010 Share #219 Posted October 15, 2010 nice and good picture Richard, good quality! Yes I could have done with the X1, if just it had a wheel for distance-setting, and therefore no shutterlag, and some full-frame could also...ok then just a distance-wheel... thorkil (go wide...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjames9142 Posted October 15, 2010 Share #220 Posted October 15, 2010 Rubbish. I know it is conventional wisdom to say that the 50 mm. most closely resembles human vision, but human vision does not come surrounded by a rectangle. It is a butterfly shape known as a horopter, and the eye constantly scans. It would be more accurate to say that the so-called normal lens most closely resembles renaissance perspective, itself a construct of optical devices, not the human eye. The most versatile lens is the one that any particular photographer can find the most uses for. Different strokes, etc. I have noticed a tendency to wider and wider lenses in reportage. And your friend Lee Friedlander is working brilliantly with the Hassie superwide and is forever buying wider and wider lenses for his Bessa. Yes, Bessa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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