"Preset Film" Setting

[ravinj]

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Has any tried the "Vivid" setting? If so, how did you feel about the results? I have used it for a few scenes and output was quite nice in most cases. The colors came out brilliant, without looking artificial. Recent shots at a fair with Vivid and Sharpening set to Medium Low yielded quite nice jpgs.

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[BB W]

I agree, I've used that setting...quite a bit in the beginning. Then more recently I've used the black and white in camera settings as a means to seeing right away if I want to use post processing to turn a RAW color into black and white. You're right sometimes those jpegs can be really good.

[prk60091]

Has any tried the "Vivid" setting? If so, how did you feel about the results? I have used it for a few scenes and output was quite nice in most cases. The colors came out brilliant, without looking artificial. Recent shots at a fair with Vivid and Sharpening set to Medium Low yielded quite nice jpgs.

That is my preset 1

Preset 2 is high contrast b&w medium low sharpening

And preset 3 is dng + jpg

[phancj]

I will try vivid on the X1, but I have tried it on my D300 for years. Here are my thoughts:

 

For landscape and all EXCEPT portraits, vivid produce dramatically nicer and more "consumer friendly" photos for OOC jpegs. For portraits, I find the exaggerated skin tones a little too much sometimes and prefer default settings, only with sharpening set to medium low as you have done.

 

If I have to use one setting, I guess I will not use vivid. But sharpening has to be medium low IMHO.

 

Will be going on a boat trip tomorrow morning RavinJ, and will try the fast action shots for the first time haha. Any advice?

[JanCderidder]

Phancj,

 

Boat trip for action shots with X1, hope it's the "Slow boat to china" ... :-)

[jorismichielsen]

I agree with Phancj. For scenery and landscape VIVID color can give beautiful results, but not for portraits. I discovered myself when I forgot to turn of the VIVID preset for a whole day ending up with some really nice landscapes, but really strange and over-coloured portraits.

 

Secondly, the outcome of VIVID also depends on the bright colors in the landscape itself and the weather. I would not shoot with VIVID preset on a bright sunny day.

 

Phancj: for action try to prefocus with the manual focus.

[phancj]

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Phancj,

 

Boat trip for action shots with X1, hope it's the "Slow boat to china" ... :-)

 

 

It's on a motorboat, last time I took some they turned out thankfully okay, some landscapes of sea which I posted on this site and they were taken whilst the boat was moving fast. Now I'll be more adventurous and maybe do some panning and maybe shoot some jumping fishes if I see any haha. I never tried even with my DSLR as no real subjects that requires it . We'll see.

 

 

I agree with Phancj. For scenery and landscape VIVID color can give beautiful results, but not for portraits. I discovered myself when I forgot to turn of the VIVID preset for a whole day ending up with some really nice landscapes, but really strange and over-coloured portraits.

 

Secondly, the outcome of VIVID also depends on the bright colors in the landscape itself and the weather. I would not shoot with VIVID preset on a bright sunny day.

 

Phancj: for action try to prefocus with the manual focus.

 

One question, when you use manual do you use the distance scale to estimate or do you

manually focus on a particular point approximate to the distance from subject first and wait for subject before firing off?

 

Been using AF practically exclusively haha.

[ravinj]

Will be going on a boat trip tomorrow morning RavinJ, and will try the fast action shots for the first time haha. Any advice?

 

If it not too late: apart from the manual focus mentioned by Jori, one important thing to keep in mind that part of the problem is psychological. Don't just assume that you will miss a shot because the AF is not blazing fast. If you don't try, you will obviously miss it!

 

Try to "look ahead" and plan in advance for potential shots. Compose in your mind, aim and click. You will obviously use shutter priority (for subjects not on the boat) if the boat is moving fast. Keeping the camera at a slight (horizontal) angle helps in capturing even very fast objects nicely when using shutter priority. Pre-focusing helps if you have already anticipated a photo-op.

 

Most importantly, don't forget to enjoy the ride - photographs are a nice side benefit.

[phancj]

If it not too late: apart from the manual focus mentioned by Jori, one important thing to keep in mind that part of the problem is psychological. Don't just assume that you will miss a shot because the AF is not blazing fast. If you don't try, you will obviously miss it!

 

Try to "look ahead" and plan in advance for potential shots. Compose in your mind, aim and click. You will obviously use shutter priority (for subjects not on the boat) if the boat is moving fast. Keeping the camera at a slight (horizontal) angle helps in capturing even very fast objects nicely when using shutter priority. Pre-focusing helps if you have already anticipated a photo-op.

 

Most importantly, don't forget to enjoy the ride - photographs are a nice side benefit.

 

Hey Ravinj you figure something like f5.6 to f8 (if sufficient light and to get greater depth since the fish may jump in any direction haha) speed 1/250 to 1/500 will nail the shots? I will adjust the iso accordingly depending on situation? To be honest I am a little worried given the negativity surrounding the X1's ability for action shots, but we'll see....

 

And yes, I always enjoy also because I am going with my wife, so the photo op is really the bonus.

 

Thanks for the kind advice!

[prk60091]

It's on a motorboat, last time I took some they turned out thankfully okay, some landscapes of sea which I posted on this site and they were taken whilst the boat was moving fast. Now I'll be more adventurous and maybe do some panning and maybe shoot some jumping fishes if I see any haha. I never tried even with my DSLR as no real subjects that requires it . We'll see.

 

 

 

 

One question, when you use manual do you use the distance scale to estimate or do you

manually focus on a particular point approximate to the distance from subject first and wait for subject before firing off?

 

Been using AF practically exclusively haha.

 

A tip I learned here that i use for manual focus. I start with auto focus to get me close then I switch to manual to "fine tune it"

[phancj]

A tip I learned here that i use for manual focus. I start with auto focus to get me close then I switch to manual to "fine tune it"

 

Thanks bro gonna try it. Thing is coming from DSLR I never really had to prefocus anything. And with the X1 the photos I take normally gives me plenty of time, no rush at all. Now I see myself deliberately trying to nail fast action decisive shots and see if I can get anything. It is a challenge I am glad to take. Think we should start the X1 decisive moment thread. I know Ravinj got loads of shots to start off?

 

Thanks all of you for helping with MF for fast action shots. Will do a bit of experimenting haha.

[ravinj]

something like f5.6 to f8 (if sufficient light and to get greater depth since the fish may jump in any direction haha) speed 1/250 to 1/500 will nail the shots? I will adjust the iso accordingly depending on situation?

 

The settings you mentioned are fine. Your will obviously tweak them to match the circumstances. For capturing photos of high speed trains, I found 1/1000 to be adequate, so in your case 1/250 to 1/500 should be good enough. Manual focus can work wonders, especially if you can afford to set it at infinity - remember that you can always crop X1's excellent output, so you don't need to get "in your face" shots all the time.

 

Good luck.

[jorismichielsen]

Hopefully not to late, and otherwise maybe useful for next time. I try to use the distance scale and zone focussing (try, since I am still practicing). At the Hyperfocal Distance and Depth of Field Calculator - DOFMaster you can calculate the DoF for X1.

[phancj]

Hopefully not to late, and otherwise maybe useful for next time. I try to use the distance scale and zone focussing (try, since I am still practicing). At the Hyperfocal Distance and Depth of Field Calculator - DOFMaster you can calculate the DoF for X1.

 

Tried going that route when I first got the 1, but the tables werent so user-friendly, and since the X1 is a 24mm, we calculate based on that? Was pretty hazy so I dropped it and decided just to do AF. May revisit this idea. Right now I am back from that boat trip weather was gloomy but think I got some nice shots. We'll see. haha.

[ChiILX1]

Vivid is a good setting for great color.

 

I use B&W High Contrast because it allows me to see lines in the field I would otherwise miss- shadows, contrasts, whatever I missed in color. Presets don't affect the RAW, which is what I work with anyway. The jpg is just for LCD viewing really in my usage.

[phancj]

Here's an update on the fast action shooting:

 

I find the following indispensable:

 

1) High iso, 1000

2) Burst mode, as the fishes were jumping real fast

 

This is a crop of part of the action, we were buying fishes from breeders and freeing them in the ocean (a Buddhist ceremony). The fishes knew they were being let go and were jumping, fidgeting as the nets were loosened.

 

Thanks to all who offer advice.

 

Photo was ok, not going to win award or anything.....took some other nice shots though...

 

Apart from the fishes, there werent any opportunity to grab action shots, mostly sunrise, dogs, sea, etc. Will post them soon. It turned out to be a bird-less day (maybe due to overcast gloomy weather, or coz the birds knew I was using an X1), with not much action shots to take. Other than that it was great. Come to think of it, I think I hardly take action shots thats why maybe the X1 is so ideal for me.

 

Will test action shooting again next time ??

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[BB W]

Thanks for these three. My favorite - those two dogs lying there half asleep on the old, worn dock's planks.

 

It might be interesting to see what you'd think of it if you cropped down a bit to either just above the end of the dock's end or just above those houses across the way, lowering the horizon line. So these were all done straight from jpeg? Love the texture of that first dog's fur - almost feel as though I can touch him. That netting on the side...their tops...also very nice.

 

Appreciate your posting all of them.

[prk60091]

i agree w/ bb about the crop.....

 

if these are ooc jpg - it proves my contention (privately held- until now) that you don't need to be a computer tech to take a good image- if you are working w/ a superior camera which the x1 is

 

no *need* to shoot RAW

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[phancj]

Hey guys,

 

I love the OOC jpegs too, and for most I normally work directly with OOC jpegs and in many instances simply resizing. But in this instance I worked with the raw as I felt the OOC jpeg lacked punch. Also I had a little more time than normal....

 

Attached OOC jpeg downsized, and also OOC jpeg with simple tweaking of a few sliders in PS. Cropped as you guys suggested. You will notice the very first I posted has fog effects done in Nik's. Bought the software a while back and decided to try it. I think its not bad.

 

It may be interesting to compared the original one done with raw, vs the one I did in jpeg. All PP is only limited to moving the normal few sliders, with the addition of fog for the first one from raw. I think the OOC jpeg is useable too., its a matter of taste?

 

Man, I dig this camera. A real joy to use.

 

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[ravinj]

It may be interesting to compared the original one done with raw, vs the one I did in jpeg. All PP is only limited to moving the normal few sliders, with the addition of fog for the first one from raw. I think the OOC jpeg is useable too., its a matter of taste?

 

Man, I dig this camera. A real joy to use.

 

Comments everyone!

 

CJ - I like the 2nd one. Colors in the first one are a bit muted. Looks like you are having too much fun with your camera with fishes, dogs and what-not. The birds however, are still missing. I expect to see at least one bird picture from you.