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X1 - Macro?


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Does the X1 have a credible macro function? It's a focus option, but there's no close focusing nor is there any real magnification of subject. I realize the extra large sensor inhibits macro work, but then why have the option? Unless I'm doing somehting wrong...

 

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john

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You have to take Leica's use of the term macro with a grain of salt. In reference to the X1, it merely denotes 30 vs 60 cm minimum focusing distance.

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Does the X1 have a credible macro function? It's a focus option, but there's no close focusing nor is there any real magnification of subject. I realize the extra large sensor inhibits macro work, but then why have the option? Unless I'm doing somehting wrong...

 

cheers,

 

john

 

it gets you to within 1 foot and with some fancy depth of field work and selective cropping you can emulate a good macro

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It has better macro than most point and shoots. I used the element from a Nikon lens to build a macro converter.

 

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Would you explain further - I don't understand.

 

The option of cropping - doesn't that deplete the pixel count or is there a way arond it?

 

I've read in a few places that the large sensor in the X1 makes macro photography difficult. Yet, I've seen some very good macro photos w/ MFT cameras, and they too have large sensors. Is this something a FW upgrade can fix? Just wondering...

 

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Would you explain further - I don't understand.

The option of cropping - doesn't that deplete the pixel count or is there a way arond it?

I've read in a few places that the large sensor in the X1 makes macro photography difficult. Yet, I've seen some very good macro photos w/ MFT cameras, and they too have large sensors. Is this something a FW upgrade can fix? Just wondering...

john

 

Just compare a $500 Panasonic LX3 (or Leica DL4) with an X1. LX3 focuses at 1 cm, X1 at 30 cm. Yes you can get an acceptable macro with the X1, but for most small subjects (insects, small jewelry like rings, etc.) you'll be cropping from 4272 pixels wide to 1000-1400 pixels wide. In other words, your 12mp image will be 1 to 1.5mp after cropping.

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You may well be right, Edward. I'll try cropping w/ add-ons that limit pixel loss, but it's a work-around. What I don't understand is why Leica has the 'macro AF', and why do other large sensor camera (MFT) have decent macro captabilities? I wonder if I'm missing something...

 

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It's the fixed lens issue. With a smaller sensor, you get more magnification with less lens length needed. On a DSLR, you can put a long lens on it to pair with the APS-C sensor to get focusability and magnification.

 

The fixed lens on the X1 just isn't long enough for Macro without an adapter.

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Sincere question then, if that's the case, why can pocket cams do it? I don't think it's the fixed lens on a whole, I think it's a design choice they made with this lens. Someone else pointed out to me that min focus distance on rangefinders is quite long as well, maybe a leica tradeoff? I don't know enough about all the leica lenses to discuss which, if any, leica touts as their macro, mft lenses aside.

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