Macbookguy Posted July 27, 2010 Share #1 Posted July 27, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I got a problem with my MP today. When the film was finished and I shold wind it back the rewind knob turns very heavy. I succed to rewind the film anyway but when I should load a new film I cant tension it, the knob seams to be nearly stuck. What can be the problem with it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aesop Posted July 27, 2010 Share #2 Posted July 27, 2010 ...are you fully extending the rewind knob before you start the rewinding action? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macbookguy Posted July 27, 2010 Author Share #3 Posted July 27, 2010 ...are you fully extending the rewind knob before you start the rewinding action? Yes, I tried it several times. The knob want turn even when the camera is without film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted July 27, 2010 Share #4 Posted July 27, 2010 Is the rewind lever on the front of the camera fully turned to 'R'? Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 27, 2010 Share #5 Posted July 27, 2010 If the knob doesn't turn even if there's no film in the camera, it sounds like it need a service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted July 27, 2010 Share #6 Posted July 27, 2010 See what Chris said? Sometimes when you mess up things the winding mechanism can get hung up between the wind on and the R for some reason. Jinking the wind on might free it up so that the R pops up and you get a shutter release, then it should be problem free. I "think" the only time (or times) it has happened to me was when I overwound the last frame when the film ran out tight a hairs breadth before cocking fully:o. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 27, 2010 Share #7 Posted July 27, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Rob Is the rewind knob connected in any way with the rewind lever? I don't think it is. The rewind lever operates a clutch to free the sprockets so that you can rewind the film. This problem occurs even when there is no film in the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted July 27, 2010 Share #8 Posted July 27, 2010 Is the rewind knob connected in any way with the rewind lever? I don't think it is. Correct. The rewind knob should rotate freely (though not loosely) when there is no film in the camera or, when there is a film in the camera, if the film is not engaged in the sprockets. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted July 27, 2010 Share #9 Posted July 27, 2010 Apologies...I read this " I succed to rewind the film anyway but when I should load a new film I cant tension it, the knob seams to be nearly stuck" to mean you couldnt load and wind on the new film. If you reach up into the film canister side you cant turn the twin forks with your fingertip if the knob is fully down? It should spin freely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aesop Posted July 27, 2010 Share #10 Posted July 27, 2010 ...have never had an MP rewind knob go stiff on me, but the knob did once go loose on one of my MPs. On the upside, the lovely repairs folks at Leicaville fixed it on the same day I took it in - all it needed was a little tightening. I hesitate to provide a diagnosis, because the root cause could be anything from a loose screw to a broken part(!) to alien material in the mechanism. Incidentally, how long have you had this MP for and how many rolls of film (roughly) have successfully passed through it in that time? Lastly, I'm not too sure if repair centres abound in Sweden, so it sounds like you may need to (gulp) "send the MP in". Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macbookguy Posted July 27, 2010 Author Share #11 Posted July 27, 2010 Is the rewind lever on the front of the camera fully turned to 'R'? Chris Yes, I have turned it back and forth several times. The rewind knob is still stuck, or I can turn it but it is very stiff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macbookguy Posted July 27, 2010 Author Share #12 Posted July 27, 2010 Apologies...I read this " I succed to rewind the film anyway but when I should load a new film I cant tension it, the knob seams to be nearly stuck" to mean you couldnt load and wind on the new film. If you reach up into the film canister side you cant turn the twin forks with your fingertip if the knob is fully down? It should spin freely. If I reach into the film canister and try to turn the twin forks its inpossible, it feels like they are stuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macbookguy Posted July 27, 2010 Author Share #13 Posted July 27, 2010 ...have never had an MP rewind knob go stiff on me, but the knob did once go loose on one of my MPs. On the upside, the lovely repairs folks at Leicaville fixed it on the same day I took it in - all it needed was a little tightening. I hesitate to provide a diagnosis, because the root cause could be anything from a loose screw to a broken part(!) to alien material in the mechanism. Incidentally, how long have you had this MP for and how many rolls of film (roughly) have successfully passed through it in that time? Lastly, I'm not too sure if repair centres abound in Sweden, so it sounds like you may need to (gulp) "send the MP in". Good luck. The camera is only three weeks old and I have shoot about 6 rolls of film. The three last rolls did feel like it was havier to rewind them then the three first rolls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted July 27, 2010 Share #14 Posted July 27, 2010 The forks and the knob should turn reasonably freely, I thought that the MP has a one way friction clutch to stop the film springing if the knob was released, such would seem to be unnecessary with M2 and M3 I've used. Especially if it has failure modes. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted July 27, 2010 Share #15 Posted July 27, 2010 I'm sorry if my comment about the rewind lever was misleading; the original post doesn't say the problem occurs even when no film is in the camera. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted July 27, 2010 Share #16 Posted July 27, 2010 With the knob fully down, you should be able to turn the forks and the disengaged knurled winder will sit still. You can still see the centre dots on the spindle turn. With the knob up you should be able to turn the forks and winder smoothly but very firmly, because it is clutched. Sounds like you are back to the retailer like the smart money said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macbookguy Posted July 31, 2010 Author Share #17 Posted July 31, 2010 Now its going back to Solms for repair:( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macbookguy Posted August 18, 2010 Author Share #18 Posted August 18, 2010 I miss my MP, its still "in repair" according to the Leica repair status. Does anyone have experience how long repairs usally takes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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