daveleo Posted September 17, 2010 Author Share #81 Posted September 17, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) . . . . Personally, I like doing a lot of the initial curves and contrast adjustment in a RAW program, where you have the most amount of information to work with. I don't know if the GIMP works on RAW files or not (I gave it up when I gave up LINUX --and it certainly didn't read DNGs at that point) I use the GIMP in Linux and it does read RAW (DNG) files using the UFRaw plugin (which will also run as a standalone program). And I also have come around to adjusting the RAW file using the plugin before it gets imported into the GIMP for additional layering, tweaking and final "framing" or whatever. I am still on the learning curve with this. All this sounds like unnecessarily complicated hard work to me.... I just set my 'HDR' profile of 3 or 5 bracketed images which the M9 rattles off instantly.... fire up Oloneo Photengone (free in beta), load the images, press a button, fiddle with a few sliders and save (takes 20 secs max) and export as TIFF/JPEG. Output is realistic, sharp, artefact free and needs no other adjustment. The "complications" show up because we are looking behind the buttons and sliders to see what goes on back there, and of course it is more complicated than pushing a button. As the lady said: . . . "The cure for boredom is curiosity . . . . but there is no cure for curiosity." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 17, 2010 Posted September 17, 2010 Hi daveleo, Take a look here tone mapping - before and after. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
thighslapper Posted September 17, 2010 Share #82 Posted September 17, 2010 For static subjects - yes. But what do you do when something moves and you get ghosting? errr.... use tone mapping.... never said it was either - or..... just that some of the pics shown on this thread would be much better as HDR and from the point of view of taking them and processing them it is just as easy (if not more) and there is SOME HDR software that does a very good and quick job. The Gdanks pic into the sun is impossible to tone map successfully from a single image (I tried) as the dynamic range is way too great. I'm not keen at all on HDR that makes images look artificial. As I said before..... I regard HDR as software based infill flash... useful when the situation calls for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted October 8, 2010 Share #83 Posted October 8, 2010 Using Nik HDR Efex Pro. M9 with 35mm Summilux ASPH with 5 handheld shots. Bagan, Burma. Before (middle exposure and before crop): Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! After tone-mapping: Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! After tone-mapping: ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/126031-tone-mapping-before-and-after/?do=findComment&comment=1465829'>More sharing options...
Big T Posted October 10, 2010 Share #84 Posted October 10, 2010 Great final pic William..... Like what you have done without going "over the top".... I find that the Leica DNG dynamic range is one of the best out there......... Makes for great tone mapped pics like yours... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted October 11, 2010 Share #85 Posted October 11, 2010 William, what kind of detail are you getting in the leaves? Any chance of a 100% crop? My thoughts are that you have to be fairly selective in the sorts of images tone mapping works well with, either stationary, or maybe the long exposure beach shots where exposure time blurs anything that moves anyway, like waves, ocean and things you dont necessarily need crips, like clouds. I am figuring that with stuff like grasses and moving foliage that if the tone mapping program has to select parts from several exposures teh movement between frames causes blurring and smearing? Burma, south east asia isnt somewhere I would go without a polarizer and maybe a graded ND ever again. But I desperately want to be convinced theres another way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted October 11, 2010 Share #86 Posted October 11, 2010 William, what kind of detail are you getting in the leaves? Any chance of a 100% crop?My thoughts are that you have to be fairly selective in the sorts of images tone mapping works well with, either stationary, or maybe the long exposure beach shots where exposure time blurs anything that moves anyway, like waves, ocean and things you dont necessarily need crips, like clouds. I am figuring that with stuff like grasses and moving foliage that if the tone mapping program has to select parts from several exposures teh movement between frames causes blurring and smearing? Burma, south east asia isnt somewhere I would go without a polarizer and maybe a graded ND ever again. But I desperately want to be convinced theres another way. Rob, Surprisingly not to bad. Remember it was handheld for 5 exposures which I think takes about two seconds or just under. The nik site just went live with a bunch of videos an user handbook. It keeps sending out cookies (or possibly because it is Flash based), so my url looks the same on all the pages. Try this as a starting point. Look for a video (first one in the list) that says "How to take care of artifacts and ghosting"" HDR Help The other day they had absolutely no documentation on the product (including no user manual) so I had to try to figure out everything on my own. Today is the official launch day. When I processed the 5 images I used none of the ghosting filters (if the leaves were blowing). It says usa in the url, hopefully it's available overseas. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/126031-tone-mapping-before-and-after/?do=findComment&comment=1468571'>More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted October 12, 2010 Share #87 Posted October 12, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) There are a surprising number of people travelling with tripods. Am thinking it is about time I started packing the extra kilograms. If it collapses down to eighteen inches or whatever carry on is, I cant see it being any more trouble than a brolly, which is about the first thing you put in for SEAsia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted October 12, 2010 Share #88 Posted October 12, 2010 ....... brolly, which is about the first thing you put in for SEAsia. Had no idea you were a poof! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted October 12, 2010 Share #89 Posted October 12, 2010 I cant remember my witty rejoinder it wus reely gud but it went the way of the bottle and preview post delete. Ah well:rolleyes:. William, it must be a thing of semantics. I shall ask Bill what brolly means in eYank. I was on a fast boat heading downsream, cursing a leica which was again in the throws of letting me down, and this german guy (well I was using expletive krauts how many people can I offend) reckoned it was probably put together with romanina labour on cheap wages. He had a brolly and hopped on dry in the monsoon downpour. I hopped on dry too but it took me a good deal of effort. Well I mean credit where its due, he and his swiss mate both had brollies. Which serviced them well:rolleyes::rolleyes:. I lost my burma brolly in cambodia in some place I cant for the life f me rememer the name of. It isnt like I didnt ride back for an hour and look for it. Gee how much did it cost me? Still I reckon it got resampled...sorry recycled, I reckon this guy got it. ... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Ps ... Thanks for the link ... I forgot before. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Ps ... Thanks for the link ... I forgot before. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/126031-tone-mapping-before-and-after/?do=findComment&comment=1469269'>More sharing options...
bill Posted October 12, 2010 Share #90 Posted October 12, 2010 Tsk, you Colonials. One should never rib a Gentleman about his umbrella... Mine comes from here: James Smith Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted October 12, 2010 Share #91 Posted October 12, 2010 Gee you are so polite Bill:rolleyes:. You never even asked if he was involved in burning someones embassy today. Red or yellow? Why be serious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted October 12, 2010 Share #92 Posted October 12, 2010 Bill, we were doing a hundred clicks across th bridge. I mean, Micheael Scuemacher move over, she was putting on her lipsptick in the mirror as she was she spoke on the mobile. Sadly she didnt stick to one lane, there goes the fantasy, I guess:rolleyes:, not straight, and you can all go to buggery. James does not look cheap:o. Imagine if I lost of them:(. PS .. I got Nikon file form me brother, who's still in Indo apparently, not the bloke with the housing. .... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/126031-tone-mapping-before-and-after/?do=findComment&comment=1469319'>More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted October 12, 2010 Share #93 Posted October 12, 2010 My apologies Rob (and Bill). Couldn't resist. Actually, it rained only one afternoon of the week I was in Burma and I think it was just after I took the files to merge to HDR in the image above. When you made your statement, all I could think of was the women walking around with their parasols (pink ones at that) in the dense Burmese sun. Forgot about the monsoon season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted October 12, 2010 Share #94 Posted October 12, 2010 Rob, This was the image I had conjured up, BTW: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/126031-tone-mapping-before-and-after/?do=findComment&comment=1469633'>More sharing options...
Rick Posted October 14, 2010 Share #95 Posted October 14, 2010 2) If you just have CS4, Save out he image then hit File>Open and in the dialogue box that appears, select the image (do NOT double click on it!) and then at the drop-down menu in the lower center next to "Format:" select "Camera RAW" and hit "OK" which will then open the ACR panel and adjust the temperature there. WPalank, you could just open the image in CS4 (or 5) as a smart object to begin with. Then, simply hit CMD-J (create new smart object layer) and double click on the new layer's thumbnail and ACR opens up automatically. As a smart object layer it can always be adjusted (always stay non-distructive). Rick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
downstairs Posted October 29, 2010 Share #96 Posted October 29, 2010 After and Before with an M9. Pretty obvious use for un-flattening and pulling out some mid-tones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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