h00ligan Posted July 4, 2010 Share #21 Posted July 4, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I haven't seen a large amount of assumptions here. There are hard limits with hardware, and if those limits are not in play then perhaps the engineering is in question. It's one o the two, or a combination of both. As far as the IQ - an understanding of lens correction or color/contrast/etc is vastly different than the optimization of a controller contributed by a third party and chosen based on a number of variables(including cost). I for one never claimed to know, there are two possibilities... limitations of the controller/sensor/etc - or failure to optimize, perhaps a mix of the two. From my pov, i was offering purely conjecture. Hence my desire for a tear apart. Had I the information about which parts were used I could offer much more to this conversation. I don't have $2000 to take it apart though, although I could reassemble it - I don't have that desire or time. I don't think I caught the meaning of your apples to apples comment followed by a comparison to Canon etc - could you clarify? The simple fact of the matter is, without discussing the sensor the IO of the device is slow, by any modern standard. Additionally there are some design choices (such as the manual focus scale and speed) that don't seem to make sense when they could be engineered in a much more capable fashion. While a camera may offer award winning IQ, it doesn't imply that the software engineers optimized the throughput of the controller, maximized the potential of the sensor, or have a broad grasp of UI, or anything else. Some of these may be an issue, some may not. Again I don't pretend to know what hardware is in place, and until that time any opinion is conjecture - apologies if that wasn't clear. I do think there are improvements that can be made assuming modern microprocessors were used. Modern being non sensor components manufactured within 3-6 months of x1 creation. Perhaps however that creation occurred years before release...who knows but Leica? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RichardM8 Posted July 4, 2010 Share #22 Posted July 4, 2010 I don't think I caught the meaning of your apples to apples comment followed by a comparison to Canon etc - could you clarify? That must be my cripple English. The apples to apples was - in this example - the X1 vs the technically comparable Ricoh A12. Not the X1 vs. SLRs or m4/3s. The Canon example was to point out that the big companies make/take incomprehensible mistakes/decisions too and take years to solve or correct them. So Leica is not unique in this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chris M Posted July 7, 2010 Share #23 Posted July 7, 2010 So, anymore thoughts about this Topic? I'm hopping that Michael will post his thoughts:) cm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest badbob Posted July 9, 2010 Share #24 Posted July 9, 2010 So, anymore thoughts about this Topic? I'm hopping that Michael will post his thoughts cm The Conspiracy Theorist's Guide to Software Engineering: 1. There is no Leica programmer - it's all outsourced to a couple of guys in Bangalore India. 2. The Leica programmer is the best there is, but the Leica designs are so "different" and demanding that s/he has had to rewrite the book on camera firmware. 3. The Leica programmer is good, but s/he is tied up with new designs and isn't able to do any patches at this time. 4. The Leica programmer is currently on sabbatical to Kodak for a few months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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