stunsworth Posted December 30, 2006 Share #41 Posted December 30, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Does it matter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 30, 2006 Posted December 30, 2006 Hi stunsworth, Take a look here Is the Digilux-3 "Seen" as a Leica. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
larry Posted December 30, 2006 Share #42 Posted December 30, 2006 Does it matter? NO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted December 30, 2006 Share #43 Posted December 30, 2006 Any good reviews on this camera. And no i agree it takes a leica mount and that is all that really matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted December 30, 2006 Share #44 Posted December 30, 2006 Any good reviews on this camera. And no i agree it takes a leica mount and that is all that really matters. very scarce info at all theres a pay for view on D3 at Amatuer Photographer Magasine, I think you can get 2 weeks free from them as a trial, Im told the review is good Amateur Photographer Test Reports the one from photokina Leica Digilux 3 user review Leica Digilux 3 Digital Camera User Review for the rest you can look at L1, which is close an ok review of L1 here Panasonic Lumix DMC-L1 Review a quality one of L1 here Panasonic Lumix DMC L1 Review Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_b_elmer Posted December 30, 2006 Share #45 Posted December 30, 2006 My common sense tells me that: a Leica is a Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smep_reloaded Posted December 30, 2006 Share #46 Posted December 30, 2006 Other question: As most of you think the Digilux-3 is a Leica: Is the Panasonic DMC L1 also a Leica, just without the red dot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted December 30, 2006 Share #47 Posted December 30, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Benjamin Franklin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted December 30, 2006 Share #48 Posted December 30, 2006 Thanks Rob . I saw this on a ad somewhere, a mini DMR? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Robertson Posted April 9, 2007 Share #49 Posted April 9, 2007 Andreas, you are right; this is one of those sticky questions. Sadly, it is likely to bring out the worst sort of brand snobbery and gormless bigotry in response. Not that it really matters what I or anyone else thinks, but it is branded as a Leica, therefore it is a Leica. It walks like a duck, it quacks like a duck... Regards, Bill It certainly won't keep its value like one. Just look at the latest prices for remaindered Minilux cameras!! £250:eek: The same amount Leica quoted for mine (bought new in 1996) to be repaired for the third time!! It's now landfill!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSK Posted April 9, 2007 Share #50 Posted April 9, 2007 If you can actually sell your Digilux 3 five years later for twenty bucks more than what you've paid for it today ... then I would say it IS a Leica. LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Robertson Posted April 9, 2007 Share #51 Posted April 9, 2007 If you can actually sell your Digilux 3 five years later for twenty bucks more than what you've paid for it today ... then I would say it IS a Leica. LOL Exactly!! I doubt if I would get what I paid for my Leica Mini 3, (which I love, and has been far more reliable than the Minilux) Must buy a Ferrari badge to stick on my Fiat. (Well it is the same company!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrycioni Posted April 9, 2007 Share #52 Posted April 9, 2007 Any good reviews on this camera. And no i agree it takes a leica mount and that is all that really matters. Guy, LFI has done a pretty good job reporting on the D3. The latest issue talks about how you can successfully adapt R lenses to the D3 and they promise more to follow on the D3 I have one, I don't use it very often since the M8. That said it is a very capable camera, but I wouldn't take it to an NHL playoff game, but then it is not advertised as such. The KIT lens is outstanding and Leica claims that the D3 14-50 ASPH Vario Elmarit KIT lens has been hand selected for the D3, how accurate that is I don't know. I do have a friend with the L1 and I can't see any difference, however the lenses have slightly different markings. The D3 lens says Leica Camera Germany on the bottom for whatever that is worth - they are made in Japan. Kindest Regards. Terry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audidudi Posted April 9, 2007 Share #53 Posted April 9, 2007 So far my main issue would be that the files need very strong sharpening which is either the chip or an extremely strong AA filter. This past week (and in particular today), I've been shooting back-to-back comparison images with my LC1 and L1. I'm not yet finished with my testing, but my initial conclusion is that L1 images not only tolerate more sharpening than LC1 images but they also need more sharpening. Even then, I'm finding the LC1 images to be more life-life, more three-dimensional and overall, more appealing to my eye. I was an early adopter and advocate of the L1, but based upon the results of my testing this past week, mine may well be finding a new home soon! And as for the notion that RAW images are somehow different between the L1/D3, I disagree as I shot a few back-to-back images with my L1 and a local dealer's D3 on my tripod (I was trying to determine if my L1's lack of sharpness was due to a defect in the camera/lens) and I can see no differences between them even when I compare them very, very carefully. If there is a difference, then it's an awfully subtle one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted April 9, 2007 Share #54 Posted April 9, 2007 yes the 5Mp files of LC-1/D2 are really quite thin, and wont take much PP without falling apart. Then again they are more often usable straight out of the camera. Yet the larger files from D3/L1, much like Olympus files can be hammered into form without much pain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audidudi Posted April 9, 2007 Share #55 Posted April 9, 2007 Yet the larger files from D3/L1, much like Olympus files can be hammered into form without much pain. Perhaps. If there is a way to "hammer them into form," then I haven't had any success in figuring it out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Flatline Posted April 9, 2007 Share #56 Posted April 9, 2007 Any other manufacturer owners tend to focus on the lenses they own once they're beyond making a body choice. Calling a Nikon a Nikon is silly because the lenses are what matters, whereas the sensor in a Nikon is made by Sony. In the case of the Digilux 3, the lens is from Leica. The camera bodies (for the forseeable future) will be out-moded every few years, but the lenses will last a long time. However, the warranty and service issues are Leica, and that matters. They may have been swamped recently, but in general they have a much deeper and longer relationship with photographers than a general electronics manufacturer like Panasonic. It's a Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfage Posted October 31, 2009 Share #57 Posted October 31, 2009 Hey man. Y'know what? I don't care what some guy says (that has the disposable income to blow 10 grand or more) that posts pictures of his car and kitty-cat on the leica forums... ... has to say about my machine. Know what I mean, Gene? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterm1_Leica Posted October 31, 2009 Share #58 Posted October 31, 2009 I actually bought the Pany L1 for the simple reason that I did not think that I could justify paying double for the little red dot on the camera and the name Leica Digilux 3 . And I am perfectly happy with it. I guess I am not a brand snob. (I am not saying that those who did buy a Gigilux 3 are, just that I did not care enough to worry about the difference - I was also a bit "suss" about the argument that the genuine Leica has better software. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJLogan Posted November 1, 2009 Share #59 Posted November 1, 2009 Almost three years later (I took delivery of my Digilux 3 the day before Thanksgiving, 2006) I have mixed feelings on the subject of whether my D3 is "a Leica." I have wished from the beginning for a larger, brighter viewfinder to make manual focus more achievable. It seems to me that manual focus is at the heart of the Leica experience. In a somewhat contradictory vein, I have also wished for faster and more accurate autofocus. I'm conflicted. I certainly wish that the (very few) additional lenses released by Panasonic for their 4/3 line had been made available as rebranded Leicas--sold by Leica in Leica packaging with Leica warranties. The added expense would be more than justified by not having to deal with Panasonic's customer service morons. Don't get me started about the morons... I'm sad that I've spent rather a lot of money on a dead-end system with no hope of seamless expansion within the Leica brand. I suppose that is a very "Leica-like" sentiment, given the fate of the R system. On the other hand, the D3's kit lens and the 25mm PanaLeica prime are brilliant performers and the body and lens controls are all just where they belong, which means that I only bemoan the compromises of the D3 when I'm not shooting with it. And it feels more like a camera and less like a computer than any other DSLR I've looked at. I'm lusting for an M9, of course, but that will be a long time coming. I'm intrigued by µ4/3, but nothing released so far tempts me--the E-P1 lacks an eye-level viewfinder, the Oly µ4/3 lenses are slow and I'll never buy another thing that might ever need to be serviced by Panasonic--not even a clock radio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdannn Posted January 18, 2010 Share #60 Posted January 18, 2010 Oh, I don't know. Those "in the know" know that the D3 is basically a Panasonic DMC-L1, which in turn shares components with the Olympus E-330. They question just who does manufacture the lens (which is curiously marked differently on the Leica and Panasonic versions). Functionally, it makes little sense to spend (at today's prices) so much more for the D3 than for the L1. You're paying for intangibles that only you may find important. The general public thinks it's a Leica. It certainly has the Leica styling, sensibilities, and price. It also has excellent picture quality. I have an investment in four-thirds lenses, and waited for the Leica for my next camera. I am not disappointed. I also have a few Olympus 4/3 lenses. One is the 12-60 swd, and the 50-200 swd. How do you like the way they work on the D3? What functions do you lose, if any, and how do you set the aperture? Thanks in advance ! Dan F. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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