swamiji Posted May 13, 2010 Share #21 Posted May 13, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have this loader, for the standart cassette: AP PHOTO INDUSTRIES DISTRIBUIDORES FOTOGRAFICOS I think that I can't use it with FILCA. Juan. I believe that is true, it requires a AFLOO, however others may have found alternatives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 13, 2010 Posted May 13, 2010 Hi swamiji, Take a look here Differences between IIIf base plates.. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Juan B Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share #22 Posted May 14, 2010 I believe that is true, it requires a AFLOO, however others may have found alternatives. But AFLOO is for work in the dark, isn't it? Noel is talking about two loaders for work in daylight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted May 14, 2010 Share #23 Posted May 14, 2010 Hi Juan/Swamiji That is a square section, I would have called a Lloyds clone, but that would not have helped you either the Tear drops are Watson 'clones'. http://www.darkroompro.com/pdf/misc_equipment/watson.pdf Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted May 14, 2010 Share #24 Posted May 14, 2010 Hi Juan/Swamiji That is a square section, I would have called a Lloyds clone, but that would not have helped you either the Tear drops are Watson 'clones'. http://www.darkroompro.com/pdf/misc_equipment/watson.pdf Noel OMG... I just purchased a device that looks identical to the "Watson", I was looking for the instructions. The Instructions refer to the Leica N-3 type cassette, is this FILCA or IXMOO? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan B Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share #25 Posted May 14, 2010 I've noticed, that when I load the Leica IIIf with a roll of a standard film, I can not put the cassette to the bottom, because if I do it, the film is too down (I say low, because the camera is upside down ) I have to leave the cassette a little higher (about 2mm), for what the gear teeth of drag, goes into the film's holes. Perhaps, using the FILCA does not happen. Juan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted May 14, 2010 Share #26 Posted May 14, 2010 OMG... I just purchased a device that looks identical to the "Watson", I was looking for the instructions. The Instructions refer to the Leica N-3 type cassette, is this FILCA or IXMOO? B = FILCA N = IXMOO Note some Watsons (plastic) come with a plastic washer 2mm thick because without waqsher they correspond to Barnack sized camera cassette housings (for FILCA) to avoid any axial movement. Fitting the washer reduces the cassette chamber by 2mm to match M camera size (for IXMOO). Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted May 14, 2010 Share #27 Posted May 14, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've noticed, that when I load the Leica IIIf with a roll of a standard film, I can not put the cassette to the bottom, because if I do it, the film is too down (I say low, because the camera is upside down ) I have to leave the cassette a little higher (about 2mm), for what the gear teeth of drag, goes into the film's holes.Perhaps, using the FILCA does not happen. Juan. Hi Juan It is necessary to push the cassette firmly into the camera cassette housing, if necessary moving (rotating) the rewind forks to allow the cassette to seat properly, the removable spool needs to be seated as well. Some of HCB photos show the sprocket holes, he may not have seated the cassette or the pressure plate springs may have been weak. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan B Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share #28 Posted May 15, 2010 Noel, if I push the cassette to the bottom, the film's holes doesn't match with the teeth of the gear. I must to pull it up, only a little, and then, when I operate the drag the holes and the teeth match. Ever I'm talking about a standard cassette, because I've never tried a FILCA. Juan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted May 16, 2010 Share #29 Posted May 16, 2010 Hi Jaun You are correct. The problem is when I load the IIIc I invert it and refer to the end with the knob as the bottom. You need to push the cassette into the body to engage the forks, and align the film with the pressure plate rails. When the film is held in the rails it is unlikely the cassette will move. This is true as well for the FILCA, until the knob if the FILCA is retained by the latch, when the cassette is sandwiched between latch and the chassis at the fork end, and it has not room to move in. Sorry Noel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan B Posted May 19, 2010 Author Share #30 Posted May 19, 2010 Yerterday I received my first FILCA and now, I know what is the part of the base plate, that rotates to open it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug A Posted October 2, 2017 Share #31 Posted October 2, 2017 I have three versions of the Watson type bulk loader and only one of them - the Watson 100 with the 2mm shim removed - works properly with FILCA cassettes. Both the Watson 66 and the Alden 74 (a very nicely made Watson clone) work well with my early Nikon cassettes and with generic cassettes but the FILCA is too long and does not fit well. The 66 and the 74 do have the control to close the cassette so I'm sure they will work with the IXMOO, but I have no IXMOO cassettes to test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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