135mm Elmar and 90mm Elmarit Visoflex III

[bhonhoff]

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I have an Visoflex III and the first M-series Elmarit 90mm.

I know I do need an 16464 to use the Elmarit on the Visoflex, but I've also got an 135mm Elmar, that I currently only can use with my Bellows 2. There is an tube in between the Elmar 135 mm and the 39m thread on the Bellows.

 

I've two questions:

- What is the order/name of this tube?

- What do I need next to the 16464 'Einstell Schnecke' to use this with the Elmar 135mm.

The diameter is really different from the Elmarit 90mm.

[doubice]

In order to use the lens head of your 135m Elmar on the 16464 focusing mount, you will need a 16472 tube. This will go between the head of the Elmar and the 16464 mount. To use the head on Bellows II you apparently need a 16558 ring and the 16472 tube.

 

The information is take from Leica Catalog No. 39 and I hope it is correct, as this was used by Leica dealers to order from Leitz......

 

Best,

 

Jan

[k-hawinkler]

Jan,

 

Thanks for your info about the gear for attaching the 135mm Elmar.

My information below concerns only the f/4 135mm Tele-Elmar and f/2.8 90mm Elmarit lens head.

 

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My f/4 135mm Tele-Elmar lens head can be screwed directly onto the 16464 universal focusing mount or via the extension tube 16471 for close up work. My f/2.8 90mm Elmarit lens head fits as well.

 

I also have the extension tube 16472 but neither of my two lens heads can be attached to it. The 16472 extension tube has 1:4/135 and 1:4.5/135 engraved on its upper end. The lower end fits into the 16464 universal focusing mount.

 

K-H.

[doubice]

Jan,

 

......My information below concerns only the f/4 135mm Tele-Elmar and f/2.8 90mm Elmarit lens head.

 

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My f/4 135mm Tele-Elmar lens head can be screwed directly onto the 16464 universal focusing mount or via the extension tube 16471 for close up work. My f/2.8 90mm Elmarit lens head fits as well.

 

I also have the extension tube 16472 but neither of my two lens heads can be attached to it. The 16472 extension tube has 1:4/135 and 1:4.5/135 engraved on its upper end. The lower end fits into the 16464 universal focusing mount.

 

K-H.

 

Yes,

 

The 4/135mm Tele-Elmar, just like the the original 'long' 2.8/90mm Elmarit fit the 16464 directly. Some of the Tele-Elmars have a light baffle around their rear element and this has to be removed before threading the lens head into the 16464. The removal is quite simple - just pull the baffle off.

 

The 16472 tube was designed for the lens heads of the 4.5/135mm Hektor and the 4/135mm Elmar, when used with the 16464 focusing mount on the Visoflex II and III.

 

In my response I have sssumed that the OP was referring to the earlier 4/135mm Elmar, not the Tele-Elmar. I am glad that we could clarify this.

 

Best,

 

Jan

[k-hawinkler]

Jan,

 

Many thanks for clarifying the purpose of the 16472 tube.

I assumed as much but wasn't sure. Now I am. Thanks.

 

Cheers, K-H.

[bhonhoff]

Thanks for the information. Now I understand why I could not find these parts, since I do not have the mentioned ´Katalog´. (The oldest I have says ´IX/76/FELB/B´)

[tobey bilek]

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DOUBICE has it 100% correct.

[bhonhoff]

Thanks for the information.

I just received an 16472 won on eBay and it fits like a glove!

 

I'm curious about the results compared to my Elmarit-R 135mm