craig stanton Posted March 23, 2010 Share #1 Posted March 23, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Im new to rangefinder photography and the M9 is the first one i have owned. When i see pictures on the internet and i zoom in on them they are very crisp and sharp. However hard i try with my focusing i cannot achieve anywhere near what i would call sharp pictures. I am using a 21mm Elmarit ASPH and a 90mm summicron pre ASPH (Latest). Also a Zeiss 50mm Planar but waiting for a 50mm summilux to be delivered. I have tried at all apertures with all the lenses but cant seem to get it right - PLEASE HELP!!!!! What am i doing wrong???? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 23, 2010 Posted March 23, 2010 Hi craig stanton, Take a look here M9 and unsharp pics - HELP!!!. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
scc Posted March 23, 2010 Share #2 Posted March 23, 2010 Post an example, might help.. What shutter speeds are you using, what lighting / ISO? Are you used to rangefinder focussing? Have you tried a tripod? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
becker Posted March 23, 2010 Share #3 Posted March 23, 2010 The 90 is for shure difficult to focus, focussing with the rangefinder needs a lot of practising. Some reason could be Your rangefinder needs to have a justage, sometimes happens, with new Cameras too. Much luck to You Im shure a lot of comments will follow. Kr Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig stanton Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share #4 Posted March 23, 2010 Have tried in all sorts of light and all iso settings. Indoors and outdoors - you name it ive tried it. No, im certainly not used to rangefinder focusing - any tips and tricks would be much appreciated!!!! Would it make it easier to just try to focus on a straight line or line up an object. i LOVE this camera and really want to get this right!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 23, 2010 Share #5 Posted March 23, 2010 Would it make it easier to just try to focus on a straight line or line up an object? Yes. A lot... You need to get the two images in the focusing patch to coincide. A straight vertical line, or a contrasting zone such as an eye, make it a lot easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig stanton Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share #6 Posted March 23, 2010 Thanks Andy Was looking at your pics before i posted this - aint that spooky!!! Very nice they are too. Will try to go for straight lines but sure ive been focusing spot on - unless my poor old eyes are getting worn out!!!! Thanks again - REALLY appreciete the help!!! Will take a naff pic with the 21mm in a mo and post!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted March 23, 2010 Share #7 Posted March 23, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks. There is a slight chance that you have a duff M9, but it's more than likely just practice that's required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
becker Posted March 23, 2010 Share #8 Posted March 23, 2010 Do you have the basic knowlege of arperture and dof, when open some lenses have a very short focuss point. Your ninety f e. M9 mut be hold very calm while taking pics. Kr Matt Ps Welcome to the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig stanton Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share #9 Posted March 23, 2010 Thanks Becker!!!! Yes but used to a 1DS MK3 and big lenses so holding this thing feels like im holding an empty tin can - its so small and light - i love it!!! Will persevere - im sure i just need more practice! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heninden Posted March 23, 2010 Share #10 Posted March 23, 2010 Craig, Are you looking at your images on the computer or in camera? The resolution of the in-camera display is notoriously bad. When I switched from the M8 to the M9, I also thought I had a problem. Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig stanton Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share #11 Posted March 23, 2010 Looking at pics on both!!! Obviously they are better on computer but "not good enough" i dont think. There are so many helpful people out there - thankyou all for your time and patience with a complete rangefinder novice - im choked!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
becker Posted March 23, 2010 Share #12 Posted March 23, 2010 Thanks Becker!!!!Yes but used to a 1DS MK3 and big lenses so holding this thing feels like im holding an empty tin can - its so small and light - i love it!!! Will persevere - im sure i just need more practice! Its a fine camera your affair will be during for a long time;) Kr Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted March 23, 2010 Share #13 Posted March 23, 2010 Craig, two other things to check: 1. Technique - do you have your eye directly aligned with the viewfinder? 2. When was the last time you had your sight checked? The second may sound as if I am being funny, but I am not. A quick trip to the optician may help. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig stanton Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share #14 Posted March 23, 2010 I know your not being funny Bill but you did make me laugh!!!! Think i will try the opticians soon - 40 in a few weeks so its obviously time!!!! Here is a quick one of my puss - 90mm lens / F4 ISO 1000. This one didnt seem too bad - perhaps its just me needing to practice with it more!! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/116239-m9-and-unsharp-pics-help/?do=findComment&comment=1270617'>More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted March 23, 2010 Share #15 Posted March 23, 2010 Your pic looks ok. For sanity's sake: 1. put the thing on a tripod. 2. Use the longer lens 3. open all the way up 4. focus on a vertical something. 5. use shutter > 125 6. check the pic. The vertical edge should be sharp as a tack! That's what these things are supposed to do. If you're ok, up to this point, you're mostly home. Add a monopod to your equipment. I never leave home without it. G'luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted March 23, 2010 Share #16 Posted March 23, 2010 If you don't have a tripod, try placing the camera on a small table facing (say) a brick wall about 5ft away; measure from the wall to approximately the centre of hot-shoe, which is where the plane of the sensor lies. Set timer to 2s/12s. Then focus the 90mm lens by using the distance scale on the lens (ignore rangefinder at this stage); set shutter to 'A' and stop down to 5.6 or 8. Depress shutter! This should establish sharpness for camera+lens as a standard to aspire to. Keep everything in place and look through rangefinder: you know lens is in focus as you have set it on the distance scale. Now turn focus ring a fraction either way while looking through view finder. In the central rectangle things should blur/refocus/go out of focus as you change the setting. You should see the 'sweet spot'. Assuming no tripod to hand, use marking tape to ensure camera does not slide on table surface as you manipulate the M9. Repeat with other lenses....... And tell puss not to look so serious next time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
becker Posted March 23, 2010 Share #17 Posted March 23, 2010 To Your pic you have not to much light there, your model is an animal which moves and You have Your ninety on, bad circumstances to practise;) Kr Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig stanton Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share #18 Posted March 23, 2010 Thanks microview, ive just had a ureka moment!!!! Becker, i know and i thankyou for your comments, just wanted to take a quick pic and show what i meant. I think i may have sussed it a bit more now thanks to microview, wasnt what you said but what you made me think about. Will keep trying and post some more soon, thanks to all, i REALLY appreciate the help - nice to know people care!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted March 23, 2010 Share #19 Posted March 23, 2010 'wasnt what you said but what you made me think about.' Don't keep us in suspense: what were those thoughts? Keep us posted – and more pics of Puss:). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig stanton Posted March 23, 2010 Author Share #20 Posted March 23, 2010 gonna come back to this one as soon as ive had time to play a bit - gone to find puss - shes gone off her tits asking for me to sign a release form and now wants royalties for her picture!!!!!!!!!!Set the camera to SOFT and the pics came out sharper so perhaps it is me being a bit jerky when pressing the shutter - not used to a manual shutter like this. Will let you all know how i got on - many thanks to all!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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