Samir Jahjah Posted February 13, 2010 Share #1 Posted February 13, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Aperture 3 offers significant improvements over its previous version. The way it handles files from M9 is very good although the overall look differs from Lightroom 2.6. However at this stage, Aperture is barely useable as it crashes all the time. Below a sample taken with the SE 18mm, B&W conversion (at 800 ISO). The last picture is the same, but processed with lightroom 2.6. The Aperture version looks more detailed. The Lightroom has a more digital look to it. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/112492-aperture-3-and-m9/?do=findComment&comment=1223929'>More sharing options...
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chrism Posted February 13, 2010 Share #2 Posted February 13, 2010 Apart from the density of blacks in the LR version, I think the big difference is that the LR has some noise reduction that isn't there in the Aperture version. Chris If I resisted the offensive pun, so can you... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eziomi Posted February 13, 2010 Share #3 Posted February 13, 2010 Aperture 3 offers significant improvements over its previous version. The way it handles files from M9 is very good although the overall look differs from Lightroom 2.6. However at this stage, Aperture is barely useable as it crashes all the time. I agree on the significant improvements on Aperture 3 but don't understand why you said is barely useable. I'm using on a iMac 27" with i7 processor and it works very much faster than Aperture 2 on the same computer as finally is a 64 bit program. BR EM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samir Jahjah Posted February 13, 2010 Author Share #4 Posted February 13, 2010 I agree on the significant improvements on Aperture 3 but don't understand why you said is barely useable.I'm using on a iMac 27" with i7 processor and it works very much faster than Aperture 2 on the same computer as finally is a 64 bit program. BR EM Because the application crashes after working on some photos for a few minutes, I have Snow Leopard on macbook pro. But when it works it is indeed very fast! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balivernes Posted February 13, 2010 Share #5 Posted February 13, 2010 Moved all from LR 2.6 to Aperture 3 last night. Works flawlessly on my iMac 24". Fast, smooth, precise, fun. Much cleaner interface than LR, much more room for the pic itself. The Faces feature is way more than a gimmick. Allowed me to tag names to thousands of pictures of people in just a couple of hours, in a really fun and efficient way. The touchup Brushes work well. The M9 DNG files are very well processed despite the absence of specific profile (at least as good as LR 2.6). The Slideshow feature is first class. The books layouts are great. Only downside is that the third party plugins (noiseninja, etc) have not moved to 64-bit yet, meaning you have to relaunch in Aperture in 32-bit to work with the plugins. In other words: do not let the absence of the M9 in the Apple lists scare anyone away. Try it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balivernes Posted February 13, 2010 Share #6 Posted February 13, 2010 Because the application crashes after working on some photos for a few minutes, I have Snow Leopard on macbook pro. But when it works it is indeed very fast! The beast needs a lot of RAM. How much RAM you have? I have 8Gb on the iMac, and have not had a single crash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samir Jahjah Posted February 13, 2010 Author Share #7 Posted February 13, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) The beast needs a lot of RAM. How much RAM you have? I have 8Gb on the iMac, and have not had a single crash. Only 4Gb... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekF Posted February 13, 2010 Share #8 Posted February 13, 2010 No crashes here with Aperture 3 on a MacBook Pro either. I'm running 4GB of RAM. I'm running it in 32-bit mode until all of my plugins are updated to 64-bit, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eziomi Posted February 13, 2010 Share #9 Posted February 13, 2010 No crashes also here with Aperture3 on iMac w/i7. i'm running 12GB of RAM but I suppose that low RAM can just slow down the program, crashes are more probably due to the graphic card VRAM. EM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robofc Posted February 13, 2010 Share #10 Posted February 13, 2010 The biggest problem in Aperture 3 is the lack of noise control. The noise button in raw fine tuning can't be checked and the noise adjustment doesn't remove chroma. The chroma noise slider in Lightroom 3 is very effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapebias Posted February 13, 2010 Share #11 Posted February 13, 2010 Sorry to say, Aperture 3 is not even barely usable, it is just not usable at all here. It crashes every time I try to import my ca. 12'000 images from my Lightroom directory. Both, importing or just linking to the images. Same on the iMac and MacBook Pro, Snow Leo, all updated and running healthy. All the reports went to Apple (I hope). I would like to give it a try, but it is too dangerous on this stage. Have to stay with LR. Happy with my M9 and quite some Leitz glass. Hans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted February 13, 2010 Share #12 Posted February 13, 2010 No crashes here with Aperture 3 on a MacBook Pro either. I'm running 4GB of RAM. I'm running it in 32-bit mode until all of my plugins are updated to 64-bit, though.Is it much slower in 32-bit mode? Any other differences from 64-bit mode? —MItch/Bangkok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonM Posted February 13, 2010 Share #13 Posted February 13, 2010 Running flawlessly. Took quite a while to transfer over stuff from iPhoto, but 8000 images and 50 minutes later all is fine. Latest Mac OS, 2.8GHz Macbook Pro, 4Gb RAM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekF Posted February 13, 2010 Share #14 Posted February 13, 2010 Is it much slower in 32-bit mode? Any other differences from 64-bit mode? —MItch/Bangkok The main difference with 64-bit is that if you have wads of RAM (greater than 4 GB), Aperture running in 64-bit mode can use all of it. I used Aperture in 64-bit mode for a couple of days, but didn't really notice a tangible performance benefit on my MacBook Pro. Perhaps if you ran benchmarks, running in 64-bit comes out ahead, but I don't notice much difference at all. Well, except that running in 32-bit mode is faster since I no longer have to re-launch Aperture to get access to my plugins. However, you can always download the trial version and see for yourself. The trial won't mess up your Aperture 2 library so if you decide Aperture 3 isn't for you, your Aperture 2 library remains completely intact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_lir Posted February 13, 2010 Share #15 Posted February 13, 2010 aperture is killing me. it took 3 days to import my library, it's 2TB & >100,000 photos, but hey I thought this was a program for PRO's? now aperture keeps crashing, it takes FOREVER to import from a card, and to export an email sized photo to "mail" takes forever too! I'm trying to change the program to use 32 bit, but comeon apple - i have a Mac Pro 2x2.8 Quad Core Xenon's with 14 GB of Ram and pleanty of drives, the library is on my Drobo, maybe thats why it took so long to update. I'm confused and annoyed - it just took 20 minutes to launch the application, it didn't show a loading screem, just was inactive, and the only option when i clicked on the app was to force quit. bravo apple, nice work! haha. seriously though, aperture seems to be more like iphoto now... not sure how i feel about that one. at least the magic mouse doesnt have that scrolling bug as on previous versions of aperture, that was really annoying! cheers jesse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted February 13, 2010 Share #16 Posted February 13, 2010 Hi There Well - I think Aperture 3 is wonderful with the M9, but like many others, I had a lot of trouble upgrading my library. This might be helpful - as it's now working well! I followed the instructions on the Aperture website to the letter: It Didn't Work This procedure did work for me - of course, it doesn't come with any guarantee, but as long as you have backed up properly it won't cause any grief. Before I describe it one thing I would say is that you shouldn't expect to use your computer for any very heavy processing while this is going on, and that you should restart it at every possible opportunity (i.e. after each stage). I tried the proper update routine 3 times, and each time it came up with a message: *Your Mac OSX startup disk has no more space available for application memory* despite the fact that there was nearly 200gb free on the hard drive. This is what I did: 1. made a copy of my Aperture 2 library somewhere else 2. moved the live copy to a different folder 3. Opened Aperture 3 (which then created a new empty library) 4. I opened preferences, switched OFF face detection 5. I switched off 'New Projects automatically generate previews' 6. Imported my old library (from the different folder) This was slow, but didn't freeze the machine, and you could see it working (it took about 8 hours with my 47,000 photo library). Incidentally, I think it's the number of pictures that's at issue rather than the size of the library. When it's finished importing. _Any fiddling or looking around will likely just freeze aperture_. *CLOSE APERTURE REBOOT YOUR MACHINE* Open Aperture (this may take several minutes, and it may say it isn't responding - don't believe it! - you can check in the Applications / Utilities / Activity Monitor if in doubt. When it's opened, click on Window / Activity - this will probably tell you that it's updating the library - with a huge number of properties to update (it was something like 87,000 on mine). If you want to do anything - then pause this procedure first - if it's been going for some time, then pause it, close Aperture and restart your machine. You should do this every 2 or 3 hours anyway (restarting your machine) -(because it's much much faster after it's restarted). It took my computer (17" MBP 2.66 unibody with 4gb Ram and 200gb free on HD) 2 days to do this procedure - now I seem to be cooking. Of course, there may be many other ways of making this work, and this may not work for you but having tried the proper 'upgrade' option 3 times, and it simply didn't work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted February 14, 2010 Share #17 Posted February 14, 2010 ...except that running in 32-bit mode is faster since I no longer have to re-launch Aperture to get access to my plugins... Derek, do plugins like Silver Efex and Viveza 2 have to be reinstalled, or are they picked up automatically by Aperture 3? ...This might be helpful - as it's now working well!... Jono, thanks for taking the time to wrote out the laborious procedure. Are you making the same basic adjustments in Aperture to M9 files that you've described elsewhere for Aperure 2 (pulling back on Boost and adjustment to reds)? —Mitch/Bangkok Flickr: Mitch Alland's Photostream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennersten Posted February 14, 2010 Share #18 Posted February 14, 2010 Because the application crashes after working on some photos for a few minutes, I have Snow Leopard on macbook pro. But when it works it is indeed very fast! I have used it severeal hours per day last few days and no problems. Sounds to me that you need to run a cleaning tool like this: Cocktail - Overview I run this once a week, never have any problems with my macbook pro. No crasches what so ever past three years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennersten Posted February 14, 2010 Share #19 Posted February 14, 2010 aperture is killing me.it took 3 days to import my library, it's 2TB & >100,000 photos, but hey I thought this was a program for PRO's? now aperture keeps crashing, it takes FOREVER to import from a card, and to export an email sized photo to "mail" takes forever too! I'm trying to change the program to use 32 bit, but comeon apple - i have a Mac Pro 2x2.8 Quad Core Xenon's with 14 GB of Ram and pleanty of drives, the library is on my Drobo, maybe thats why it took so long to update. I'm confused and annoyed - it just took 20 minutes to launch the application, it didn't show a loading screem, just was inactive, and the only option when i clicked on the app was to force quit. bravo apple, nice work! haha. seriously though, aperture seems to be more like iphoto now... not sure how i feel about that one. at least the magic mouse doesnt have that scrolling bug as on previous versions of aperture, that was really annoying! cheers jesse I have one TB pictures, it took for ever for also to convert the database, but it works extremly quick, no crashes etc, It's really i joy to use. I have Macbook Pro latest with 8GB memory Seems the me that you need to rebuild the database check here, could possibly be a permission problem also. Aperture 3: Troubleshooting Basics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennersten Posted February 14, 2010 Share #20 Posted February 14, 2010 Is it much slower in 32-bit mode? Any other differences from 64-bit mode? —MItch/Bangkok I guess you notice when you do a big databasesearch like in faces and places. Otherwise i can't notice any difference. The overall speed is greatly improved from last version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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