No noise suppression for M9 in Aperture 3?

[robofc]

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In Aperture 3, M9 files do not have the, "de noise," slider under raw fine tuning. There is a box that says, "auto noise compensation," but it cannot be checked. Even when you add the adjustment slider for Noise it does not work. What is the deal?

[Guest joewehry]

I am not sure about the M9. On the M8 with Aperture 3 and RAW, the auto noise compensation can be check / unchecked and the anti noise sliders work in the adjustment panel.

 

Are you sure it is a RAW file and not a JPG?

 

Maybe other users who have an M9 can offer better help that is unique to the M9 file.

[chrism]

Look in the menus Photos/Add Adjustment >/Noise Reduction (shortcut ˄N). This will add the adjustment for noise reduction to the Adjustments panel on the left.

 

Aperture 3 crashed on importing one year of photos, so I have trashed it for now. This was on a MacBookPro 2.53GHz with 8GB of RAM.

 

Chris

[robofc]

The adustment slider doesn't do anything. I think there is some problem because the M9 files are not supported (after 5 months of being on market).

[holgerf]

The adustment slider doesn't do anything. I think there is some problem because the M9 files are not supported (after 5 months of being on market).

 

I checked the behavior of Aperture 2 and 3 with M8 and M9 files on my computer.

 

Any Difference between Aperture 2 and 3?

No. The options I get in "RAW fine tuning" as well as in the adjustment panel "Noise Reduction" are the same for M8 and M9 files in both versions of Aperture.

 

"RAW Fine Tuning"

The offered options and the initial values in this box depend on the respective camera profile. As there is still no profile for the M9 the generic DNG profile is applied which obviously does not offer "Auto Noise Compensation".

My personal assumption is that the OS-X camera profile for the M9 we all are waiting for will not be published before Leica releases the next firmware update for the M9.

 

Adjustment panel "Noise Reduction"

It does work in the same manner in Aperture 2 and 3 and for both, M8 and M9 files. You wrote "…the slider does not do anything…". Try it once more: zoom to the 100% view "actual size", put the "radius" slider to the most right and the "edge" slider to the most left position. Doing this you should recognize a difference.

 

Best

Holger

[robofc]

The noise reduction with the slider is minimal. It doesn't even remove all the chroma noise at 800 iso, which should not be that difficult. The Lightroom 3 chroma noise slider only has to be set at 15 percent to remove all the noise and the Aperture 3 can't do it at all.

 

First shot is Lightroom 3 at only 15 percent chroma noise reduction. Second shot is Aperture 3 at 1.5 on the noise slider, equal to 50 percent, I believe.

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[holgerf]

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The noise reduction with the slider is minimal.…

 

So contrary to the initial thread you would agree that it DOES work. However the noise reduction of Aperture is undfortunately not really satisfying.

 

I use the plug-in "DFine 2.0" from Nik Software which is one of the excellent noise reduction tools. You may give it a try.

 

Best

Holger

[robofc]

The problem with plug ins is that lightroom and aperture both have to create tiff files which are exported to the plug in and then re-impoted back into the program. Since noise suppression is so common it will have to be done on many of the files. Tiff files are way larger than the DNG files and once done, will not allow adjustment of the non-destructive adjustments, they are baked into the tiff. So it creates large files which have baked in adjustments. No thanks.

[archi4]

I ran a night shot from my M8 taken at 1250 through noise reduction in the developers I have;

By far the best is Capture One 5 - no contest.

Lightroom 3 beta followed as second together with Raw Developer.

Aperture 3 was by far the worst.

Although I have separate noise reduction plugins, including Dfine I agree that using them for RAW or DNG files isn't my choice. I only use them for point and shoot camera files.

[LuxBob]

I would agree that noise control on Aperture is limited. When necessary, I use Noise Ninja as a plug-in but the emphasis is on 'necessary' and that is not often.

One plus in this situation is that Aperture offers non-destructive editing. It is easy to over correct with noise reduction or over sharpen with sharpening.