stunsworth Posted January 11, 2010 Share #21 Posted January 11, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Bo- I'm really interested in this. My iPhone wont work for this as most of the places I travel into in Africa have no mobile phone coverage. Mike, if you have a 3G iPhone it doesn't matter if there's no phone signal as the phone has a built in GPS receiver, and that's what the Trails software uses to determine the position of the phone. The limiting factor of the iPhone solution is likely to be the battery life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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michali Posted January 11, 2010 Share #22 Posted January 11, 2010 Mike, if you have a 3G iPhone it doesn't matter if there's no phone signal as the phone has a built in GPS receiver, and that's what the Trails software uses to determine the position of the phone. The limiting factor of the iPhone solution is likely to be the battery life. Steve- Thanks very much for this info. I wasn't aware that you didn't need a phone signal for GPS reception on the iPhone I will do some homework on this. All the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted January 11, 2010 Share #23 Posted January 11, 2010 Or you can use our software Ovolab - Geophoto - overview download the gpx files created with your iPhone, then put the files together with your picture's folder into the software, and it will matches the recorded time of each shot with that of your gpx files. Then you can write them into your EXIF data and get each shot geotagged (and universally readable). Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFV Posted January 11, 2010 Share #24 Posted January 11, 2010 I REALL, REALLY do not recommend the iPhone for this. Your battery will not last the whole day. While the iPhone is sometimes a great and useful toll but it is not meant to do everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted January 11, 2010 Share #25 Posted January 11, 2010 I REALL, REALLY do not recommend the iPhone for this. Your battery will not last the whole day. While the iPhone is sometimes a great and useful toll but it is not meant to do everything. For seldom use, the iPhone is anyway ok, the GPS locator inside doesn't consume too much battery at all... The 3g connection, and the full lightened display are much worse than the gps alone. Anyway, the OP may use any GPS pocket device available in the market, spending 50 to 80bucks more or less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted January 11, 2010 Share #26 Posted January 11, 2010 I REALL, REALLY do not recommend the iPhone for this. Your battery will not last the whole day. If I wanted to do this on a very regular basis, then I agree the best thing to do would be to buy a dedicated geotracking device, but for occasional use I think the iPhone is fine. The battery life can be improved by switching off WiFi and 3G, and if you are not taking photographs the application can be suspended and restarted when necessary. I went out today and ran the Trails application on my iPhone for just under two hours. This is with a fully charged iPhone and WiFi and 3G left on. Looking at the battery strength I'd guess it's used approx 20% of the batteries charge. The positioning was accurate to about 10 metres or less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted January 11, 2010 Share #27 Posted January 11, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) The positioning was accurate to about 10 metres or less. Um. Genuine question... What's the point? "My mate Fred took a really great photo - now I can go and stand on the exact same spot and take the same one" Or "I went here to take this photo - isn't that cool?" Or... what? I'm really not trying to be funny. I can see the use for technical and commercial applications, but otherwise? Isn't this akin to Munro bagging and all those other obsessive collecting habits? Or maybe more like the ramblers in the 1930s who would collect those little metal plaques and nail them all over the shaft of their walking sticks? I can see how it appeals to the inner geek, but... Please enlighten me. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted January 11, 2010 Share #28 Posted January 11, 2010 Genuine question... What's the point? When I'm on holiday in France, I tend to travel around quite a bit, staying maybe one or two nights in a particular place. I've got a shed load of photographs where I can't remember where they were taken - and I'm talking about not remembering the town, never mind the street. Sometimes when I'm going to the same area I might want to revisit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFV Posted January 11, 2010 Share #29 Posted January 11, 2010 When I'm on holiday in France, I tend to travel around quite a bit, staying maybe one or two nights in a particular place. I've got a shed load of photographs where I can't remember where they were taken - and I'm talking about not remembering the town, never mind the street. Sometimes when I'm going to the same area I might want to revisit. I guess that is the point... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted January 11, 2010 Share #30 Posted January 11, 2010 Hmm... I use a Moleskine for that. No battery problems at all, and it gets a signal everywhere. Before you think me a total technophobe, however, I should point out that my Nokia E71 (that's like an iPhone, but with a decent keyboard, and a battery life that exceeds that of a Mayfly ) has GPS, and I do use it in conjunction with Google Maps - in fact it proved very useful when we were in Malta, since one of the other participants (Mike, I think) - had already tagged all the meeting points. I think it's the "Look Mum, I was EXACTLY here at EXACTLY this time" bit that I struggle with, although as I say, my inner Geek can see some attraction. Perhaps it's a FaceSpace thing. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicoleica Posted January 11, 2010 Share #31 Posted January 11, 2010 When I'm on holiday in France, I tend to travel around quite a bit, staying maybe one or two nights in a particular place. I've got a shed load of photographs where I can't remember where they were taken - and I'm talking about not remembering the town, never mind the street. Sometimes when I'm going to the same area I might want to revisit. I normally take a photograph of a signpost or suchlike to remind me of where I was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted January 11, 2010 Share #32 Posted January 11, 2010 From Ken Rockwell's essay on "Are hobbyists killing photography" Hobbyists vs. Photography "If it sucks, who cares if it's GPS geotagged? If it's great, it's because of the lighting and timing, which has nothing to do with the location." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted January 11, 2010 Share #33 Posted January 11, 2010 If it's great, it's because of the lighting and timing, which has nothing to do with the location." Ken's talking crap - as usual - of course location matters in the making of a great photograph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted January 11, 2010 Share #34 Posted January 11, 2010 But is a great photograph less great because there is no geotagging? Or a poor photograph better because it was tagged? Do you want to make pictures, or play with toys? I'm working on a series titled "Beyond 104°" myself. I'm not planning to include "W 105° 15' 23", N 38° 30' 15" " in the prints. It would kind of spoil the effect... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/109212-how-to-link-a-m9-with-gps-data/?do=findComment&comment=1183727'>More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted January 11, 2010 Share #35 Posted January 11, 2010 But is a great photograph less great because there is no geotagging? Of course not, but what Ken wrote was "If it's great, it's because of the lighting and timing, which has nothing to do with the location.". He is saying that all you need for a great photograph is lighting and timing, which is nonsense. Where you take a photograph where you are is a fundamental part of the subject and the composition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted January 11, 2010 Share #36 Posted January 11, 2010 OK, yes, Ken was at least sloppy in his phrasing, if not wrong. At the moment you shoot the picture, the location you choose is a factor. I still don't see what that has to do with carrying another toy around in the gadget bag, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted January 11, 2010 Share #37 Posted January 11, 2010 There wouldn't be another gadget, I already have the phone. There's no compulsion to use geotagging. If it's not something you want to do that's fine. 95% of the time I don't use it either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brt3 Posted January 11, 2010 Share #38 Posted January 11, 2010 Personally, having just celebrated my 50th birthday, I'm all for ANYTHING that helps me streamline my internal database. Just spent a week in Baja, shot nearly 3,000 pix, and then had to reconstruct the exact locations from my trip logs. Having GPS data that auto-tagged the EXIF data would be great for me. Never, EVER, come between a Geezer and his Gadgets, eh? Here's a good article: The Nouveau Art of Geotagging Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo_Lorentzen Posted January 12, 2010 Share #39 Posted January 12, 2010 Hu, having lived and worked in or around Hollywood for decades now, being able to pinpoint the exact location of a shot in the desert, or anywhere else for that matter, is directly translatable as cash for locations. So there are practical meaningful reasons to have a geotag on each image, in the meta-tags naturally. Im still using the old Sony, because its cheap, they sold quite a lot of them so most geotagging softwares accept the files, Sony claims it ONLY works with their cameras, which is BS, this only applies if you want to use their goofy software. The sony CS3KA works perfectly with Mac and the M9. The trick is the two softwares I mentioned, the Load my tracks is the one which make the Sony files play nice with everybody else. Photolinker pro is top in that it show you live what happens when you make little adjustments to your time stamp, this solves if your camera is off a little. I used the sony stick twice in Kruger with successful tagging each time, though that was with a older software called geo-robot on a PC laptop, which is much more backwards than the photolinker. The other great thing, you can import your tracks and match them later. the stick have room for about 40 hours. Since they typically cost only $100 these days I always carry two when I need them, one in the side pocket of my camera bag for recording, the other in the bottom of the luggage. They are simple, one power button and a blinking light to show its working. stuff it and forget. They operate on one AA battery, I normally feed it energizer lith ones so it keep cooking for days. The top have a mini USB plug, the thing show up as a USB storage when connected. I totally understand and appreciate the moleskin method and always have one in my camera bag. But since I am daft and lazy, I appreciate not thinking about one more thing, the stick will keep track of where I was and if I ever need to know, well then its there. days when I really don't care I have often just dumped the GPS file into the image folder, knowing I can always match it later if I find a reason. However, if you intend to geotag the files, i suggest doing so before importing them into lightroom as light-room then pulls in the geotag, otherwise the tag will get lost if you save meta-data to the dng file from lightroom in the future. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted January 12, 2010 Share #40 Posted January 12, 2010 Um. Genuine question... What's the point? "My mate Fred took a really great photo - now I can go and stand on the exact same spot and take the same one" Or "I went here to take this photo - isn't that cool?" Or... what? I'm really not trying to be funny. I can see the use for technical and commercial applications, but otherwise? Isn't this akin to Munro bagging and all those other obsessive collecting habits? Or maybe more like the ramblers in the 1930s who would collect those little metal plaques and nail them all over the shaft of their walking sticks? I can see how it appeals to the inner geek, but... Please enlighten me. Regards, Bill Bill, (Not only)My agency tends to look for archive (repertory) pictures browsing them by geo-tags just to speed up the newspapers' editing (when they can). This is not obviously "THE" point, but it's so much easier to send hundreds of pictures to those guys there behind the desks without the need for listing each shot's location. And I'm sure I'm not a geek. In this case, the geo-tag is absolutely a big help. I know that many amateurs may love it without needin' it, but I can't see the point in pulling down a feature you simply don't need or understand. Some features add, some other just help. That's it IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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