ho_co Posted July 8, 2006 Share #21 Posted July 8, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) [ATTACH]1662[/ATTACH]and with the small hole up I don't know the cat no of your head, but it was discontinued when the M5 came out because your version didn't allow the M5 to clear the tripod. The first replacement had similar metal fittings all round, but without the flippable bottom fitting and just a straight shaft from ball to camera mount, no cross-piece. This second one and yours were engraved "Leitz." Then came the current version, same thing as the second but with a black tightening knob and engraved "Leica." I took the question to be about the later versions when I remarked that the 3/8" thread wasn't an option for the tripod. --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spxxxx Posted July 8, 2006 Share #22 Posted July 8, 2006 Have a look at http://www.mwclassic.com A forum member pointed me to this site for a lens and they also have the tripods and a couple of the ball heads for sale second hand........ Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
george + Posted July 8, 2006 Share #23 Posted July 8, 2006 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I don't know the cat no of your head, but it was discontinued when the M5 came out because your version didn't allow the M5 to clear the tripod. The first replacement had similar metal fittings all round, but without the flippable bottom fitting and just a straight shaft from ball to camera mount, no cross-piece. This second one and yours were engraved "Leitz." Then came the current version, same thing as the second but with a black tightening knob and engraved "Leica." I took the question to be about the later versions when I remarked that the 3/8" thread wasn't an option for the tripod. --HC Well, I am not surprised. I bought these at the Frankfurt Airport duty free shop in the fall of 1966. But the changes do not seem to be for the better, The new version is less versatile and larger. More importantly, I don't get the comment about the M5 not fitting. Above is mine in the most adverse mounting position. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Well, I am not surprised. I bought these at the Frankfurt Airport duty free shop in the fall of 1966. But the changes do not seem to be for the better, The new version is less versatile and larger. More importantly, I don't get the comment about the M5 not fitting. Above is mine in the most adverse mounting position. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/1084-leica-mini-tripod/?do=findComment&comment=9256'>More sharing options...
ho_co Posted July 9, 2006 Share #24 Posted July 9, 2006 I don't get the comment about the M5 not fitting. Above is mine in the most adverse mounting position. Your picture illustrates it perfectly. You can't swing the M5 around the vertical axis without also raising it. You can do that on the later heads. (Try the same with the M6, and it will swing 360 degrees without problem on your version.) As you say, this is the "most adverse mounting position." One would prefer not to work with the camera that way, but for stability's sake would rather position it over the longest leg, and that is what is precluded by this version and why it was replaced. --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
george + Posted July 9, 2006 Share #25 Posted July 9, 2006 Wow, whats wrong with moving the camera and the legs together? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rubidium Posted July 9, 2006 Share #26 Posted July 9, 2006 I've been using the 14100 / 14110 combo for over 22 years - first with the R4, and now with the R9/DMR. It's a cinch to carry, and there are so many ways to use it: on the roof or hood of a car, against a fence or wall, or simply against your chest. Get one - it's indispensible. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_a_h Posted July 9, 2006 Author Share #27 Posted July 9, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've ordered both items new (base 14100 + ballhead 14110). They will ship on Monday. Total cost including shipping = $348.78 Canadian ($313.76 US, 245.95 Euro). That's it, no more expensive Leica purchases for me! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/1084-leica-mini-tripod/?do=findComment&comment=9629'>More sharing options...
marknorton Posted July 9, 2006 Share #28 Posted July 9, 2006 That's actually a good price, the Leica shop in Berlin will charge you €270. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_a_h Posted July 9, 2006 Author Share #29 Posted July 9, 2006 That's actually a good price, the Leica shop in Berlin will charge you €270. The ballhead was the one in the display case. It's covered in fingerprints - hence the wee discount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimF Posted July 9, 2006 Share #30 Posted July 9, 2006 The two together are a great combination, and the head can also serve on a standard tripod, so long as the tripod has a quarter-inch screw (three-eighths inch won't work). On a recent China trip I also used the ball head on a compact Gitzo tripod for my M system. My old large ball-head (dating from lord knows when, but probably that coded 14121, so mid-60s at a guess) has a reversible base, so can be used on either 1/4" or 3/8" screws. As our Brian would say, Leitz thought of everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabek Posted July 9, 2006 Share #31 Posted July 9, 2006 Re: George's images illustrating the dual thread capability of his ball head, my version of the long ball head has concentric 3/8" and 1/4" socket and stud to accommodate both sizes without disassembling and turning around the plates. The 3/8" stud or socket, which is spring loaded, recedes to accommodate the 1/4". This is brilliant engineering in its perfection and ease of use, similar to the elegance of the design of the tabletop tripod that, given the few number of moving parts, offers exceptionable portability, nearly infinite adjustment and multiple purposes. These pieces reaffirm my pleasure of owning Leica/Leitz equipment. Gabe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbstitt Posted July 9, 2006 Share #32 Posted July 9, 2006 Does anyone use the Leica mini Tripod 14100 with 14110 1/4" ballhead with their D2? I'm looking for a mini pod for canoe trips. I didn't have one on my last trip and I sure could have used it. I will pay the extra $ for the Leica if it is indeed a great tripod and ball. some photos: http://web.mac.com/mah9/iWeb/Photography/Wabakimi.html I use an old Leica Minitripod with the bigger ball head with my D2 and it is a great combination. I often use if for a chest pod if I cannot find something to set it against. Mine is certainly not collector quality but it is still very functional. Got it for a song years ago used from some dealer who I now forget. John Stitt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_a_h Posted July 10, 2006 Author Share #33 Posted July 10, 2006 someone needs to describe the "chest pod" technique. this is the first I've heard of it. wouldn't digging your left hand into your chest and cradling the camera and lens from underneath with the same hand, and shooting with the right hand be faily stable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted July 10, 2006 Share #34 Posted July 10, 2006 someone needs to describe the "chest pod" technique. this is the first I've heard of it. "Chest pod": just set up the tripod & head; mount the camera on it; then brace the tripod against the chest and adjust the ball head as necessary. Works in a jam, though bracing the tripod against a wall or desk or such is more stable. --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
starwatcher Posted July 10, 2006 Share #35 Posted July 10, 2006 I've ordered both items new (base 14100 + ballhead 14110). They will ship on Monday. Total cost including shipping = $348.78 Canadian ($313.76 US, 245.95 Euro). That's it, no more expensive Leica purchases for me! Mark, for sure one of the rare purchases in life you won't regret... One day your grandchilds will be grateful best - Klaus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbstitt Posted July 10, 2006 Share #36 Posted July 10, 2006 Howard described the chest pod technique fairly well. I have enough mass that it stops much of the shake. But I used it in the Louvre with available light (full tripod or flash not allowed but cameras are) to get some good shots. Works best if you put two legs between the collar bone and the third straigh down the middle of your chest. Not sure it would work with the short ball head but it does fine with my old black long one that doesn't look anything like the ones I have seen in this thread. I have hand chest pod held down to 1/15th at f/2 with an M6 and gotten good results. Same is true with the D2 and it seems to work even better. May have to shoot a couple to be sure but I have one down to 1/4 second shot that way. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptomsu Posted July 11, 2006 Share #37 Posted July 11, 2006 this is a great product I am already using since many years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinetar Posted July 11, 2006 Share #38 Posted July 11, 2006 Our Leica rep has Parkinsons, he demonstrated the chest technique. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted July 12, 2006 Share #39 Posted July 12, 2006 John Stitt implies that that it is possible to take a picture at a slower shutter speed than with a standard M. I find this so, too. I am amazed at the slow speeds -- handheld -- at which I can take pictures with the D2. I have many taken at 1/10 that are just fine. Of course, I have many taken handheld that are no good, but that's operator failure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_a_h Posted July 12, 2006 Author Share #40 Posted July 12, 2006 update... it's here! I was just doing a fast tabletop shot on my coffeetable of a cellphone and other junk for a layout, using my full size tripod collapsed down. Before I even took one shot, the doorbell rang - it was the postman with my package (the leica mini tripod and ballhead). That was great timing! First impressions: it was hard to handle... the legs were going all over the place when I was setting up. And the ballhead feels much different from my manfrotto... the top ring (which holds the ball) with its single slot for tilting took some getting used to. So I set it up and took my shots and found it was actually much better suited for the shot than the big tripod arrangement. Second impressions: it took about 15 minutes of playing with it and practicing set-up and adjustments, but I now have a feel for it. I have to say I love using it. And I love the way the ballhead is designed to screw on and stop tight leaving the adjustment screw exactly in the correct position for my left hand to use, red dot facing forward, and camera pointing directly over the longest leg. Good job Leica! Pretty sexy beast too. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/1084-leica-mini-tripod/?do=findComment&comment=11827'>More sharing options...
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