Yippy_Kiyey Posted December 22, 2009 Share #1 Posted December 22, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) In apperture mode, I understand that you set the apperture, in Shutter mode, you set the speed. But in program mode, I do not know what to set to get the effect that I want. How does this work? I am newbie and strugling with this one. Thank you so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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h00ligan Posted December 22, 2009 Share #2 Posted December 22, 2009 Not specific to a leica cam but - does this help? AE mode and program shift I think thats our program mode no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertoDeRoma Posted December 22, 2009 Share #3 Posted December 22, 2009 In apperture mode, I understand that you set the apperture, in Shutter mode, you set the speed. But in program mode, I do not know what to set to get the effect that I want. How does this work? I am newbie and strugling with this one. Thank you so much. Maybe this will help. You know the first two: Aperture mode - you pick the aperture (e.g. f/2.8 for shallow depth of field, f/8 for more depth of field) - the camera decides the shutter speed for proper exposure. Shutter more - you pick the shutter speed (e.g. 1/1000 to "freeze frame" or 1/2 to capture some motion - like kids on a swing or cars passing by) the camera picks the appropriate aperture for proper exposure. The other two are: Manual: You pick both aperture and speed - the camera does not help at all and you might end up with over/under-exposed captures. Although the camera alerts you of bad exposure. Program: The camera picks an initial combination of aperture and exposure for proper exposure, but with the "joystick", you can change from a few combinations of aperture and exposure that will also result in a proper exposure. When you reduce the aperture the shutter time is increased by the "program" and vice-versa. In other words, while with Manual you can come up with combinations of aperture and shutter speed that would result in over/under-exposed pictures, with Program you can only pick combinations that would result in properly exposed pictures - at least in theory. You decide which one of the "approved" combinations to use based on what you want to accomplish with the picture (e.g. pick a faster shutter speed for freezing action, or smaller aperture for more depth of field.) I hope this helps. Alberto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yippy_Kiyey Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share #4 Posted December 22, 2009 Thank you guys so much. It really helped me a lot. Happy holidays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yippy_Kiyey Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share #5 Posted December 22, 2009 I am sorry, I thought I got it but still having problems. Ok, I set the camera in P mode, but when I toggle the joystick, it doesn't allow me to change the apperture. When I am in P mode it displays the "+/-" and thats what changes when I toggle the joystick. Is it suppose to be that way? I thought the apperture setting is changed by the joystick. Thank you again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yippy_Kiyey Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share #6 Posted December 22, 2009 Oh, I got it and I really got after a lot trys. I have to press the shutter half way to display the setting and then move the joystick to the desired combination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertoDeRoma Posted December 22, 2009 Share #7 Posted December 22, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Oh, I got it and I really got after a lot trys. I have to press the shutter half way to display the setting and then move the joystick to the desired combination. You got it! Sorry, I forgot about mentioning the half-press of the shutter button to get the data to be displayed (it has become second nature to me so I did not even think of it.) BTW, I highly recommend the book "understanding exposure." Ciao, Alberto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulpp Posted December 22, 2009 Share #8 Posted December 22, 2009 I must be being specially stupid today (or I blame the useless Leica manual), but I can't seem in P mode to get the joystick to change the aperture/shutter speed. Have tried to use the joystick whilst holding the shutter half down and immediately after holding the shutter half down - both without success. All I get is the option to change exposure compensation. Really really annoying. Is there some combination of settings which would prevent using the joystick in P mode? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulpp Posted December 22, 2009 Share #9 Posted December 22, 2009 Think I have worked it out that you cannot use Intelligent ISO and P mode although the manual does not appear to tell you that ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertoDeRoma Posted December 22, 2009 Share #10 Posted December 22, 2009 I must be being specially stupid today (or I blame the useless Leica manual), but I can't seem in P mode to get the joystick to change the aperture/shutter speed. Have tried to use the joystick whilst holding the shutter half down and immediately after holding the shutter half down - both without success. All I get is the option to change exposure compensation. Really really annoying. Is there some combination of settings which would prevent using the joystick in P mode? Paul, no need to feel stupid - the manual is not very clear, especially if you were not previously familiar with many of the terms and concepts used. The "joystick" - not my term - is the little "nipple-like" (sorry) device above the other joystick-like button that looks like a plus sign. It says Q-Menu over the joystick. Are you sure you are moving the joystick and not the "plus-sign"? Do this. Put the camera in P mode. Aim at something and press shutter 1/2 way. At the bottom of the screen you should see a rectangle with 2 numbers (one for aperture the other for shutter speed.) Move the joystick/Q-menu up or down and you should see a red "P" in a box next to the aperture/shutter and also see the aperture/shutter numbers change as you move the joystick up/down. Try and report back. I am not going to give up until we make it :-). Ciao, Alberto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulpp Posted December 22, 2009 Share #11 Posted December 22, 2009 I think your post crossed with mine, but thanks for the help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yippy_Kiyey Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share #12 Posted December 22, 2009 Yes Paul, I believe our post crossed. Antonio answered my question and I am Ok now. Thank you Antonio for your help and by the way I ordered the "Understanding Exposure" as you have recommended. Pretty sure it help me a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yippy_Kiyey Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share #13 Posted December 22, 2009 Edit: Sorry, I mean Alberto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertoDeRoma Posted December 22, 2009 Share #14 Posted December 22, 2009 Yes Paul, I believe our post crossed. Antonio answered my question and I am Ok now. Thank you Antonio for your help and by the way I ordered the "Understanding Exposure" as you have recommended. Pretty sure it help me a lot. Yay! Glad you got it. And no problem about calling me Antonio, I know I bear a striking resemblance to Antonio Banderas and it confuses people . Alberto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffster Posted December 25, 2009 Share #15 Posted December 25, 2009 Try downloading the LX3 manual. I found it much more informative than the Leica one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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