andym911 Posted February 13, 2010 Share #61 Posted February 13, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) here a couple of new shots , 1st at 400 ASA, 2nd at 1600ASA...Both pretty clean and noise free in my opinion. regards andy Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/107445-the-x1-at-iso-3200/?do=findComment&comment=1224282'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 13, 2010 Posted February 13, 2010 Hi andym911, Take a look here The X1 at ISO 3200. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
andym911 Posted February 13, 2010 Share #62 Posted February 13, 2010 2nd Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/107445-the-x1-at-iso-3200/?do=findComment&comment=1224283'>More sharing options...
Douglasco Posted February 13, 2010 Share #63 Posted February 13, 2010 very nice images Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertoDeRoma Posted February 13, 2010 Share #64 Posted February 13, 2010 Where are the haters? I think the quality of these pictures shut the haters up. Very, VERY nice! Alberto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym911 Posted February 13, 2010 Share #65 Posted February 13, 2010 Dougalsco and Alberto thanks for your comments. Am sure the haters are still lurking regards Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertoDeRoma Posted February 13, 2010 Share #66 Posted February 13, 2010 Dougalsco and Alberto thanks for your comments. Am sure the haters are still lurking regards Andy Hater is a big word, but I can definitely understand people who simply don't LIKE using the LCD to compose pictures. The photos posted are making me reconsider the X1 for high-ISO/portable situations. Sadly both my M8 and D2 don't give me the results I want at higher ISOs. But the 'noise'/grain I've seen in some of the in-camera B&Ws (which is my 1st choice anyway) looks very analog and natural. But an external viewfinder would be a must for me. As much as I like the DL4, I don't like using the LCD to compose (not to mention the battery life issues with the LCD usage.) Alberto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym911 Posted February 13, 2010 Share #67 Posted February 13, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) But an external viewfinder would be a must for me. As much as I like the DL4, I don't like using the LCD to compose (not to mention the battery life issues with the LCD usage.) Alberto completely agree...my LCD is off for composing and shooting...I 'need' an optical viewfinder to get the enjoyment. andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsva Posted February 19, 2010 Share #68 Posted February 19, 2010 I am now travelling again, this time in Austria. These two ISO3200 pictures are taken yesterday in Salzburg. As I don't have Lightroom on my laptop the pictures are jpg:s from the camera, resized in windows Paint. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/107445-the-x1-at-iso-3200/?do=findComment&comment=1231450'>More sharing options...
Logic108 Posted February 19, 2010 Share #69 Posted February 19, 2010 Amazing that it is ISO 3200. The ergonomics don't appeal but the image quality certainly does. If I were to get the X1 it would be because of the ISO. I'm not sure the M9 is as good at 3200. Also it seems that there is a weaker AA filter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted February 20, 2010 Share #70 Posted February 20, 2010 For those that think the X1 is the only high ISO performer here is a comparison with a test shot from each camera at ISO 3200 done by the Spanish camera test site. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/107445-the-x1-at-iso-3200/?do=findComment&comment=1232755'>More sharing options...
pappde Posted February 21, 2010 Share #71 Posted February 21, 2010 For those that think the X1 is the only high ISO performer here is a comparison with a test shot from each camera at ISO 3200 done by the Spanish camera test site. What would we do without your great help in pointing out that there are equal and/or better cameras out there. If you haven't noticed it yet, this thread is NOT an X1 bashing thread. You gave us enough input on your dislike of the X1. Now be a good boy and find an other camera for your venomous soul to rant about and let the others carry on to have a grown up discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelbrenner Posted February 21, 2010 Share #72 Posted February 21, 2010 I welcome opposing opinions on the forum, and especially competing photos, so in that way we who eagerly await the X1 know a bit more about what's available on the market and are aware of how our dream camera stands up to the competition. Obviously, someone being contrary just be contrary is not very constructive, but candid observations presented courteously ought to be welcomed, encouraged, and sought out. Otherwise we are relegated to a "head-in-the-sand" mentality which makes us blind followers (both fall into the ditch!) and gives Leica no incentive to continue to provide the stellar products that we have come to expect, demand, and appreciate. So far I personally have seen no "deal-breakers" and plan to acquire an X1, but having had exposure to a variety of differing viewpoints, I feel I'm making a better informed decision, and if asked by my non-Leica brethren, I'm more prepared to inform them about what differentiates my Leica X1 (when I get it) from the other great systems. Sorry about the length, but that's my 2 cents... 8-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan States Posted February 21, 2010 Share #73 Posted February 21, 2010 For those that think the X1 is the only high ISO performer here is a comparison with a test shot from each camera at ISO 3200 done by the Spanish camera test site. And your point is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsva Posted February 21, 2010 Share #74 Posted February 21, 2010 For those that think the X1 is the only high ISO performer here is a comparison with a test shot from each camera at ISO 3200 done by the Spanish camera test site. Yes, the Ricoh seems to perform very well. But are the test pictures taken with different light when the reflections on the pens are so different? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFONG Posted February 21, 2010 Share #75 Posted February 21, 2010 For those that think the X1 is the only high ISO performer here is a comparison with a test shot from each camera at ISO 3200 done by the Spanish camera test site. I think people choosing Leica is because it is an Leica. Everyone knows a lot of cameras are better than X1 in term of functionality, performance and have good IQ. I have Oly EP1 and Canon 7D. I want to get Leica X1 because it is the cheapest Leica digital camera made by Leica and able to produce the IQ as good as M8. :D Sometimes our buying decision is illogical ("MY HEAD SAYS NO, MY HEART SAYS GO"). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic108 Posted February 21, 2010 Share #76 Posted February 21, 2010 Talking about competing cameras - Sony has just announced an new camera with interchangeable lenses that uses similar sensor to the X1 albeit redesigned. It will be interesting to see if the X1 is able to maintain it's competitive edge in the IQ department. For some this is a moot point anyway because if the X1 is working for them then great. More time shooting and less time discussing on web forums. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted February 21, 2010 Share #77 Posted February 21, 2010 But are the test pictures taken with different light when the reflections on the pens are so different? My thoughts exactly! Different light, different contrast. And nobody knows which raw converters were used, etc. Apples and oranges. No one can draw conclusions as to which camera is 'better' from comparisons like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted February 21, 2010 Share #78 Posted February 21, 2010 Talking about competing cameras - Sony has just announced an new camera with interchangeable lenses that uses similar sensor to the X1 albeit redesigned.It will be interesting to see if the X1 is able to maintain it's competitive edge in the IQ department. For some this is a moot point anyway because if the X1 is working for them then great. More time shooting and less time discussing on web forums. I've been monitoring the newly announced Sony E-mount system very closely these past few days. It looks like Sony wants to reserve a piece of the EVIL-pie that is now in the hands of Panasonic and Olympus, with Samsung just entering this market. Sony still only has mock-ups to show and it might take another six months (Photokina) to a year or so for anything to hit the shelves. Besides, I personally feel the X1 is a totally different concept. EVIL's are very different 'compacts'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsva Posted February 25, 2010 Share #79 Posted February 25, 2010 Here is a pic from the Ice Palace in Dachstein Glacier / Austria. There is visible noise especially in the top-right corner, but in my opinion the noise doesn't harm this picture much when the colours and sharpness turned out so good. ISO3200 F4 1/60sec Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/107445-the-x1-at-iso-3200/?do=findComment&comment=1239418'>More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted February 26, 2010 Share #80 Posted February 26, 2010 I'm one of the haters...and by haters I mean that I hate that my M8 doesn't shoot as clean and that I can't afford an X1 at the moment. Impressive little piece of kit. But don't forget that with an M8 you just put on a 28 f2 and totally shoots as clean as this at 1250, and with a 24 1.4 it will be cleaner at 640 for the same illumination IOW, the difference looks like a stop, which you can make up with a speedier lens. The difference with the M9 will be much less than a stop from what I've seen so far. But if you can't afford an X1 then I guess those options are off the table, and I'm not trying to be flippant here, only pointing out that the M8 system has other options than pure sensor speed. It's too bad Zeiss doesn't make a 25 f2 M compatible. But you could try to find a used CV 28 1.9, which is a sweet lens indeed. OTH--these shots are all very impressive to me in any case; looks like Leica got the image quality and sensor speed for a 2.8 fixed lens just right, though I'd still like to see some more high ISO colour shots, preferably with people in them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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