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Please let me retract my mention of the MiniTT1 working on the M8-9. I tried it again today and for some reason it failed to trigger the strobe.

 

I have used the full-size PocketWizards for several years with the Leicas, and they work fine. The Elinchrom Skyport is a small, less expensive, trigger that works well with my Leicas. There are numerous Chinese triggers that are very cheap, but some are quite unreliable.

 

If you would like more information on this subject, visit the Strobist website. You will find everything there.

 

Dale

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Please let me retract my mention of the MiniTT1 working on the M8-9. I tried it again today and for some reason it failed to trigger the strobe.

 

I have used the full-size PocketWizards for several years with the Leicas, and they work fine. The Elinchrom Skyport is a small, less expensive, trigger that works well with my Leicas. There are numerous Chinese triggers that are very cheap, but some are quite unreliable.

 

If you would like more information on this subject, visit the Strobist website. You will find everything there.

 

Dale

 

did you remember to use a shutter speed below 1/180th sec., which is the fastest sync speed?

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Has anyone successfully used an M9 and the PocketWizard radio-controlled flash?

 

Pocketwizards (Plus II's and MultiMax's) use a single centre fire hotshoe connection. This allows them to work with almost every hotshoe on the planet.

 

As the M9 has no electronic release you can't use a pocketwizard for remote triggering of a Leica M9, but you can certainly use a pocketwizard to fire flashes from one.

 

In theory the new TTL transmitter might work if it's set to a legacy channel thereby switching off all the TTL bells and whistles. But only having Multimax's to play with I can't confirm (Nikon shooter still waiting for the MiniTTL-Nikon version).

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Here's what I have gotten so far from Customer Support of PocketWizard:

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Hello,

 

Thank you for your interest in PocketWizard. If your Lieca M9 has a standard hot shoe or PC (sync)port then you can use PocketWizard.

 

The PW Plus II units will be all you need to fire your flash remotely from the camera. One Plus II goes on the camera as a transmitter and another Plus II attaches to your Nikon flash as the receiver.

 

See here: Wireless transmitters and receivers - Pocketwizard®

 

Thanks,

Garry Montalbano

 

PocketWizard Support

customer.support@pocketwizard.com

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How do you use wides that need an external viewer and studioflash (e.g pocket wizard)? Can you stack them?

 

Normally you can't since they both require the hotshoe to mount. However with a bit of thought you can work around the single hotshoe.

 

The trick is to buy a hotshoe to PC sync port adapter.

Jessops Hot Shoe/PC Adapter - Jessops

 

Put the adapter into the hotshoe and place the viewfinder on top. Then either holder the PW using a hand strap or stick it in your waistband while connecting via PC cord to the sync port. To avoid the PC cord sticking into your cheek when viewing via the finder you can unscrew the top plate and fit it in reverse so that the port is at the front instead of the back.

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I don't have an M9, but I assume it is the same as the M8... so with that assumption:

 

  • You can use any manual Pocket Wizard transmitter or transceiver (including the Plus units)
  • You can use the brand new MiniTT1 or FlexTT5 units from PocketWizard with the latest firmware upgrade.
     
    For this to work, you need to set the trigger to Manual naturally (through the PW computer program), and NOT to ETTL obviously :)
     
    Yes, they're made for Canon; yes they work with my M8. You can also (and this is the coolest thing) put a flash on the top hot-shoe and so fire a local flash + remote flashes with NO (zero) cables and no PC SYNCH (the M9 and M8 don't have one, which is really dumb). I'm sure you could put a finder on them too; don't know how that would affect the view, though :)
  • The MiniTT1 / TT5 PWs trigger both newer and older units.

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Hey Ed--

 

The only weirdness with the Ms and the newest PWs / latest firmware is that you need to fire a test shot to get it to recognize the manual connection. Other than that, I've been happily using multiple flashes with the TT5 and the M8.

 

There are still some small bugs in the newest system though--distance is sometimes thrown off by RF interference with the flash in the hotshoe, believe it or not (and I've seen this when I mount a Canon locally, but if I use a Metz I don't have the problem--don't know why). Newer PW units are coming with a shield for this, which greatly increases the wireless distance.

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Hey Ed--

 

The only weirdness with the Ms and the newest PWs / latest firmware is that you need to fire a test shot to get it to recognize the manual connection. Other than that, I've been happily using multiple flashes with the TT5 and the M8.

 

There are still some small bugs in the newest system though--distance is sometimes thrown off by RF interference with the flash in the hotshoe, believe it or not (and I've seen this when I mount a Canon locally, but if I use a Metz I don't have the problem--don't know why). Newer PW units are coming with a shield for this, which greatly increases the wireless distance.

 

Jamie, these look very "cute." I've seen a review where the guy said they have much less range than the Plus II units -- he recommends waiting for version 2.

 

I like the idea of the 5 and am considering it. I'll try some PW's at a shoot next month -- also with a flash aimed at the ceiling, as you have stated you do.

 

What flash unit are you using for this, please?

 

Best regards,

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Jamie, these look very "cute." I've seen a review where the guy said they have much less range than the Plus II units -- he recommends waiting for version 2.

 

I like the idea of the 5 and am considering it. I'll try some PW's at a shoot next month -- also with a flash aimed at the ceiling, as you have stated you do.

 

What flash unit are you using for this, please?

 

Best regards,

 

Hi Bill--

 

My understanding it that it's the flash not the PocketWizard that limits the range, and that only in TTL, so it's pretty moot for a manual trigger system. V2 won't be any better in this regard (and the current versions are pretty upgradeable via firmware).

 

Having said that I usually use either a Metz 54c or a Nikon SB900 in the M shoe; neither of which exhibit the issues that the Canon flashes do. For the remotes, I usually use a mix of Nikon (SB900) and Canon (550 and 580) but they're on old-style PW Plus receivers.

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I have been using my M9 with upto 4 full sized Pocket Wizard PLUS II. I have only managed to get them to fire if the M9 is set to the flash symbol on the speed dial. Having to test flash every time you have a break of a minute or so to re-awaken the PW/flash is irritating.

I use them with a flock of Nikon SB800 Speedlites. I most often use it in a studio setting with the PW firing a flash inside the Lastolite Hi-Lite panel behind the subject. As in the attached photo of my wife.

 

Image M9 Noctilux f/1

 

 

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I have been using my M9 with upto 4 full sized Pocket Wizard PLUS II. I have only managed to get them to fire if the M9 is set to the flash symbol on the speed dial. Having to test flash every time you have a break of a minute or so to re-awaken the PW/flash is irritating.{snipped}

 

Hi Ian,

 

I've been using the old PWs on the M8 for a long time now, and I have a couple of questions...

 

1) are you saying you only have a single synch speed with your M9? Isn't it 1/180th and below or something? I won't synch at say, 1/30s?

 

2) If you turn off the power management of your flash, you shouldn't have to test fire anything. I've never had to do that with PWs.

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