Elmo Posted November 20, 2009 Share #1 Posted November 20, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) this came in from B&H today, Dear Customer , You've previously requested to be notified when the following item comes in to stock: Leica - LEM9B (USA) M9 Rangefinder Digital Camera Body (Black) This item did not come in to stock yet, However, we are now accepting pre-orders and the item will be shipped when it comes in to stock. If you still wish to be notified when it actually comes in to stock, please re-submit your request to be notified. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 Hi Elmo, Take a look here B&H Photo M9 availability changes?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
aesop Posted November 20, 2009 Share #2 Posted November 20, 2009 this came in from B&H today, ...what does this missive mean (in plain English, please)? Is it in stock or not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat_mcdermott Posted November 20, 2009 Share #3 Posted November 20, 2009 If I'm not mistaken, previously B&H wouldn't accept pre-orders. They'd only send you a notification email when it was in stock and then you had to scramble to hit the submit order button. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aesop Posted November 20, 2009 Share #4 Posted November 20, 2009 If I'm not mistaken, previously B&H wouldn't accept pre-orders. They'd only send you a notification email when it was in stock and then you had to scramble to hit the submit order button. ...hmmm, gotta love cryptic notifications. Good thing I am not in the market for one of those things. Thanks for your help with the deciphering, mat_mcdermott. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammam Posted November 20, 2009 Share #5 Posted November 20, 2009 It seems pretty clear to me. The M9 is still not in stock, but now B&H are beginningo to be afraid - and justly so - they will lose sales if they keep on not taking pre-orders. It won't change the delay a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffreyTotaro Posted November 20, 2009 Share #6 Posted November 20, 2009 I got a similar message about the gray version. At least they must see some light on the horizon if they are accepting orders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EarlBurrellPhoto Posted November 20, 2009 Share #7 Posted November 20, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) It seems pretty clear to me. The M9 is still not in stock, but now B&H are beginningo to be afraid - and justly so - they will lose sales if they keep on not taking pre-orders. One can spin the speculation glass-half-empty as well , vis: "It seems pretty clear to me"...they know or suspect that a revision is due in short order and have decided to order only as many currently-specified M9s from Leica as they have pre-orders for, so as not to end up with a roomful of below-dealer-net closeouts. It's all useless speculation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted November 20, 2009 Share #8 Posted November 20, 2009 It seems pretty clear to me. The M9 is still not in stock, but now B&H are beginningo to be afraid - and justly so - they will lose sales if they keep on not taking pre-orders. It won't change the delay a bit. Nah, what's happening is that B&H now has clear indication from Leica that they will very shortly have enough stock to cross their critical mass threshold. Because B&H is the largest Leica dealer in the world, they have a unique problem when dealing with constrained product deliveries. Since they will not, as a matter of policy, maintain a sequential order list like most local dealers will, they must have a reasonably significant number of an item on hand before they open the sales door. Conversely, it poses a sales challenge for Leica. Do they send a significant portion of initial production to B&H - their most prized dealer? Or do they spread them out across their dealer network at large? This is good news. For B&H to take this step means significant body shipments are in the works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James R Posted November 20, 2009 Share #9 Posted November 20, 2009 Once orders match shipment, they will again restrict M9 orders. They did this with Nikon D3. My order got in before they pulled the D3 down and I had to wait for the next order to arrive. I'd be surprised if it worked any other way--B&H doesn't play games. As to getting in on the orders before people change their minds, that doesn't work well since you can easily cancel an order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonka Posted November 20, 2009 Share #10 Posted November 20, 2009 this came in from B&H today, B&H has been taking preorders since the camera was launched in September. All you had to do was call them and ask. I did. I placed my order and I now have my M9. For whatever reason, they are just now announcing on the internet that they will accept preorders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spersky Posted November 20, 2009 Share #11 Posted November 20, 2009 Nah, what's happening is that B&H now has clear indication from Leica that they will very shortly have enough stock to cross their critical mass threshold. Because B&H is the largest Leica dealer in the world, they have a unique problem when dealing with constrained product deliveries. Since they will not, as a matter of policy, maintain a sequential order list like most local dealers will, they must have a reasonably significant number of an item on hand before they open the sales door. Conversely, it poses a sales challenge for Leica. Do they send a significant portion of initial production to B&H - their most prized dealer? Or do they spread them out across their dealer network at large? This is good news. For B&H to take this step means significant body shipments are in the works. I agree. B&H will only ever do this when they expect the bodies to become available. They do not care about losing people on the waiting lists. They are a huge Leica dealer, and will not accept order ever when they have no eta on the product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammam Posted November 20, 2009 Share #12 Posted November 20, 2009 Once orders match shipment, they will again restrict M9 orders. They did this with Nikon D3. My order got in before they pulled the D3 down and I had to wait for the next order to arrive. I'd be surprised if it worked any other way--B&H doesn't play games. As to getting in on the orders before people change their minds, that doesn't work well since you can easily cancel an order. Not with a non-refundable deposit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammam Posted November 20, 2009 Share #13 Posted November 20, 2009 I agree. B&H will only ever do this when they expect the bodies to become available. They do not care about losing people on the waiting lists. They are a huge Leica dealer, and will not accept order ever when they have no eta on the product. This not my experience with them. I have, in the past, ordered an item from them, and paid through an on-line payment company, only to be told after the completion of the sale that the item was not in stock. Yet, it was not listed as back-ordered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2mini Posted November 20, 2009 Share #14 Posted November 20, 2009 I called this morning and was told that they are only listed on the website if they have a batch on the way. So they are definitely expecting a batch and they said it should be within 14 days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRJR Posted November 21, 2009 Share #15 Posted November 21, 2009 this came in from B&H today, 1. I received the same email, but did not respond since I already have an M9 that I purchased from Adorama, NYC. 2. Over on dpreview, a number of folks are now receiving their Leica M9 from Amazon.com, as of this week (they were all pre-orders). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andalus Posted November 21, 2009 Share #16 Posted November 21, 2009 I ordered M9 from BH two days ago when I got notice they were accepting pre orders. Now, this morning, it appears they have taken payment! Anyone know what this means. I was under the impression they only took your dough when they shipped. I have no word on that. I ordered a grey M9. The expense of this camera is beastly. If the markets dive, I will send it back I think and chug on with the MP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2mini Posted November 21, 2009 Share #17 Posted November 21, 2009 I ordered M9 from BH two days ago when I got notice they were accepting pre orders. Now, this morning, it appears they have taken payment! Anyone know what this means. I was under the impression they only took your dough when they shipped. I have no word on that. I ordered a grey M9. The expense of this camera is beastly. If the markets dive, I will send it back I think and chug on with the MP. It states right on their website that they charge your card when the order is placed. Adorama on the other hand states that they don't charge until it's ready to ship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsonkirk Posted November 21, 2009 Share #18 Posted November 21, 2009 My experience is you can get an M9 from them in 2 ways: Either pre-pay the full price, or make a deposit with COD for the remaining amount. You'll be on a 'short list' & will get it soon. Kirk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammam Posted November 21, 2009 Share #19 Posted November 21, 2009 I ordered M9 from BH two days ago when I got notice they were accepting pre orders. Now, this morning, it appears they have taken payment! Anyone know what this means. I was under the impression they only took your dough when they shipped. I have no word on that. I ordered a grey M9. The expense of this camera is beastly. If the markets dive, I will send it back I think and chug on with the MP. They always say that they don't charge until the'ere ready to ship. So, they must have it in stock. But did they say they were shipping the camera right away? Otherwise, this looks strange, to say the least. I'd strongly suggest you enquire ASAP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammam Posted November 21, 2009 Share #20 Posted November 21, 2009 It states right on their website that they charge your card when the order is placed.Adorama on the other hand states that they don't charge until it's ready to ship. I didn't know that. So, this a very new policy from B&H. Not long ago, they said the exact opposite, «We don't charge until we're ready to ship.» This confirms what I think, even mighty B&H, THE biggest Leica dealer in the world, according to some, is getting nervous with this M9 mess. We're not talking about a deposit here, refundable or not, we're talking about full payment of an item that they can't even say when they will ship it. I've never heard of that before. And what if they ship in six months? Or a year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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