Focus Posted November 19, 2009 Share #1 Posted November 19, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi all I haven´t posted much here and I am quite new to this great forum. Could any of you MP owners share some info about the size of the 50mm frames when using the 0.72 magnification. Is it similar to the M2 and M4-p or smaller? I was thinking if it could replace my two cameras Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest maddoc2003jp Posted November 19, 2009 Share #2 Posted November 19, 2009 Significantly smaller than in your M2 or M4-P. Beginning with the late M4-Ps (the ones with flush windows and zinc top-plate) up to the M7 / MP the 50mm frame line size became smaller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focus Posted November 19, 2009 Author Share #3 Posted November 19, 2009 Thank you for the fast reply, do you find this annoying when using 50mm lenses?, regarding focusing and composition. Do you think it would be better to have the 0.85 when using 50mm? Significantly smaller than in your M2 or M4-P. Beginning with the late M4-Ps (the ones with flush windows and zinc top-plate) up to the M7 / MP the 50mm frame line size became smaller. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maddoc2003jp Posted November 19, 2009 Share #4 Posted November 19, 2009 Thank you for the fast reply, do you find this annoying when using 50mm lenses?, regarding focusing and composition I use M4-P (with the larger 50mm frame-lines) and M7 (with MP finder), both 0.72x in parallel. M4-P fits better for me but in practical use it is no big problem. I had once an M6TTL (and also a couple of M3), they were indeed better for 50mm but since I wear eye-glasses, the 0.85x wasn't very suitable when using a 35mm lens. I have and use occasionally a leica 1.25x magnifier (mostly for my 90mm Summicron-M). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focus Posted November 19, 2009 Author Share #5 Posted November 19, 2009 Maybe the 1.25x viewfinder magnifier might be a solution if I would find the 50 frames too small? I use M4-P (with the larger 50mm frame-lines) and M7 (with MP finder), both 0.72x in parallel. M4-P fits better for me but in practical use it is no big problem. I had once an M6TTL (and also a couple of M3), they were indeed better for 50mm but since I wear eye-glasses, the 0.85x wasn't very suitable when using a 35mm lens. I have and use occasionally a leica 1.25x magnifier (mostly for my 90mm Summicron-M). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maddoc2003jp Posted November 20, 2009 Share #6 Posted November 20, 2009 If you find the 50mm frame lines to small for your taste regarding composition, then the 1.25x magnifier is a solution. However, it won't help with the problem that the 50mm frame lines of the newer M Leicas show less than what will be on film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasw_ Posted November 20, 2009 Share #7 Posted November 20, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) The 50mm lines in the modern MP are no big deal, as RFs have never been that exacting in composition anyway; on a personal anecdote, I shoot 50s a lot, and have never had trouble with the composition provided by the MP 50mm. With a ,85x VF, the 50mm lines are excellent. Be aware that the 50mm lines have a different look in the .85x VF than they do in a .72x; the bottom horizontal line in the .85x VF does not cross all the way, it is broken into parts. I love it but I have heard others who would prefer a solid line. What is a big deal is focus accuracy; combined with using wide angles, this has been an integral part of the RF allure for many shooters. I strongly recommend the highest finder magnification you can stand with the focal lengths you prefer. Most shooters do not like the 35 lines on a ,85x VF, but I do. If you can learn to compose with both eyes, then your open-eye will serve to give plenty of info regarding what is coming/going from the frame; much more than if there was loads of space around the outside of brightlines in the finder. YMMV in this....so try it before you buy it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoanMarianne Posted November 22, 2009 Share #8 Posted November 22, 2009 On all but the very last few M4-P bodies, the 50mm framelines in the 0.72 finder, are larger than in the M6 and, I suspect, the MP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focus Posted November 23, 2009 Author Share #9 Posted November 23, 2009 Thank you again for your replies. If I get one in the future, I think my solution is the 0.72 viewfinder and have an extra 1.25x magnifier for 50mm use, and without for my 35, and sometimes 28 usage. Just out of curiousness, do you know what leica charge to change the viewfinder magnification of a camera? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted November 23, 2009 Share #10 Posted November 23, 2009 Just out of curiousness, do you know what leica charge to change the viewfinder magnification of a camera? As that means changing the entire viewfinder system including the brightline frames, be prepared to pay at least in the order of US$ 600, maybe more. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoanMarianne Posted November 23, 2009 Share #11 Posted November 23, 2009 This came up a few weeks ago on this site. M4-P cameras with serial numbers 1642551 and above have the smaller 50mm framelines and unrecessed viewfinders. This takes in the 70th Anniversary models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_n Posted November 23, 2009 Share #12 Posted November 23, 2009 The MP3 camera has larger (and I believe more accurate) framelines than the MP. They are tough to find at a reasonable price though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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