cliffp Posted November 12, 2009 Share #21 Posted November 12, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I bought an M7 yesterday and tried it out today a) in a shopping mall and in a market (in Portsmouth uk). Someone serving at a food stall in the concourse told me there were signs stating that photography was not allowed and that the security guards would give me grief. I looked and there were no signs. There wasn't any problem in the market area. I have taken loads of candid shots of people with an SLR and typically a 70-200 zoom without any problem. It certainly feels a lot more intimidating using a 50mm (even though I was the photographer I anticipated the reactions of my subjects). This experiment has shown me I have a lot to learn and fortunately there are very useful threads like this to guide me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 Hi cliffp, Take a look here street photography and self consciousness. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
microview Posted November 12, 2009 Share #22 Posted November 12, 2009 Camden Market (that appalling tourists' trap in N London) has a shop selling Victorian style women's underwear. They have window notice 'forbidding' anyone to take photos – who would be remotely interested, I wonder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffp Posted November 12, 2009 Share #23 Posted November 12, 2009 Microview I don't know whether your comment was ironic (I am not an expert on Victorian underwear) but I had a girlfriend once who wore some retro underwear (not sure which period) which included a laced up top and it was very sexy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM-25 Posted November 12, 2009 Share #24 Posted November 12, 2009 I think it is fascinating in how writing, photography and film making are starting to blend together into a new language. But it is rather scary too, to think that your own foot prints on the internet could exceed your very being in ways that you have no control over or any say in. So that is why I believe people are starting to ask me more and more if their photo is going to be on the internet, with some outright telling me they don't want to be there and it only makes sense to me. I recently posted a survey…much to my regret as to why people do it, why they photograph other people they do not know and then post it to the whole world without the subject knowing, if that is the case. In short, I am surprised I was not hospitalized for the fall out and it has only been a couple days, a few hours in the case of the latest set. But I think that as time moves on, more and more people are going to protest, because this is the social ground, the cafe table of sorts in which we show each other our photography, films and words and not everyone will want to be a part of that. But unlike leaving a stack of a dozen 4x6 prints on the cafe table, we are in effect in a single posting on a place like Flicker, leaving a stack of 1,000 of these prints in every coffee shop in the world for what could be an eternity. So there are new questions that will be asked of us and we should ask of our selves, but I will leave that to you to all foster and discuss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheewai_m6 Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share #25 Posted November 14, 2009 ok. so this morning i went out to a market to try to grab some shots. i got 2 shots... two reasons. 1. the people are pretty hostile in brisbane towards this style of photography. i almost definitely know it's because they are so ignorant to street photography, and photography in general, they instantly think you're a seedy character. i took a photo, and one guy (who is a stoner. common in the area this market is located), said 'should ask before you take photos of people' and kept carrying on and on, i looked at him and said 'no worries' but he kept going on and on. so i just walked off. 2. i chickened out as well. i had a 35mm cron the camera. i think this is a good focal length for street. i've done some shooting in hong kong and thailand as i've said before, and neither of those places did i feel AT ALL any hostility towars someone with a camera. i'm travelling to europe next year. amongst street, the city itself is worth shooting. brisbane is a bit crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM-25 Posted November 14, 2009 Share #26 Posted November 14, 2009 the people are pretty hostile in brisbane towards this style of photography. i almost definitely know it's because they are so ignorant to street photography, and photography in general, they instantly think you're a seedy character. Really? Wow, that is not the experience I had at all when I lived in "Brissy". But then it was in 2001 and I was working for the Queensland AFP office, lived there for over 5 months. I lived in St. Lucia near the University of Queensland and would shoot downtown at least once or twice a week for my self, the rest of the time for AFP. I guess places / people change.....? But curious, was the situation such that you could not have had a rational conversation about it with him? I love having the chance to speak to people about anything, it is often more rewarding than the actual photography. Add to that I have been pleasantly surprised numerous times by a nasty situation that turns positive if I just show the person I care about what they are telling me, regardless of tone they have or the front they put up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AgXlove Posted November 14, 2009 Share #27 Posted November 14, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) ok. so this morning i went out to a market to try to grab some shots. i got 2 shots... two reasons. 1. the people are pretty hostile in brisbane towards this style of photography. i almost definitely know it's because they are so ignorant to street photography, and photography in general, they instantly think you're a seedy character. i took a photo, and one guy (who is a stoner. common in the area this market is located), said 'should ask before you take photos of people' and kept carrying on and on, i looked at him and said 'no worries' but he kept going on and on. so i just walked off. 2. i chickened out as well. i had a 35mm cron the camera. i think this is a good focal length for street. i've done some shooting in hong kong and thailand as i've said before, and neither of those places did i feel AT ALL any hostility towars someone with a camera. i'm travelling to europe next year. amongst street, the city itself is worth shooting. brisbane is a bit crap. Unfortunately, there's a fair amount of that type of ignorance afoot in people's thinking here in the U.S., too. Fortunately, it seems as if you carry yourself with confidence, act in a professional manner and do not act furtively, not much is said - usually. Someone once said "if you act as if you know what you are doing, people will assume that you do and will tend to leave you alone." Asking before photographing certain subjects (mostly children or groups of children) seems to head off unpleasantries. The types that seem to object the most to street photography are stoners who hang out in public parks, carnies who run the games at carnivals or fairs and busybody middle aged women, in my experience. I had a middle aged woman question me when I was photographing at a public function at our courthouse - and I hadn't even photographed her. Some people are just incurable crusaders, I guess. Another time, it was a carnie at a state fair: "Hey, maaaaaan - why you taking pictures of little kids?!?!?" (the fact was, I was photographing everyone at the fair, including the police officers who were on patrol). The guy in this incident struck me as a down and outer who who felt the need to exert control/authority over someone - anyone - because of his station in life (just my impression of him). Fortunately, I have yet to experience a violent or potentially violent reaction to my work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheewai_m6 Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share #28 Posted November 14, 2009 Really? Wow, that is not the experience I had at all when I lived in "Brissy". But then it was in 2001 and I was working for the Queensland AFP office, lived there for over 5 months. I lived in St. Lucia near the University of Queensland and would shoot downtown at least once or twice a week for my self, the rest of the time for AFP. I guess places / people change.....? i was shooting at the west end markets (when i say shooting, 2 shots is a plural. i'm such a nancy for chickening out) do you remember the type of people that live at west end? i have shot in the city once, and i did enjoy that and i guess i didn't feel the hostility there. perhaps i should do it again. i've attached a couple of shots from that time in the city. i very rarely have time to shoot because during winter i got sports, and i work full time as well. AgXlove. when it comes to kids, definitely ask first, i know that! the fact is, there are more people with good intentions than there are with bad. and if i had a bad intention, it would be weird for me to just clearly present myself with a camera and take photos of an individual. you would do it from distance instead of a 35mm lens. but that's the world we live in, at the same time i don't blame anyone either. the particular stone head i encountered, well didn't really interest me in a conversation. i'm not an arrogant person. he was off with the fairies, and talking to sense to guy would've been like talking to a brick wall. feel free to comment on the photos too. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/103217-street-photography-and-self-consciousness/?do=findComment&comment=1117108'>More sharing options...
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