thinkfloyd Posted October 24, 2009 Share #1 Posted October 24, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I tried to search for this problem of mine, but can't find it. Hope it's ok to post a thread here... I just got my M8, and was told it was perfectly functioning. I believe the seller since he is a stand-up guy... anyway, when I shoot in a dim room, it overexposes badly. It exposes for 32 or 16secs. But if it's pointed at a light source, or if the scene is relatively bright, it overexposes about 1-2 stops. If I use it in manual mode, the arrows always point to the right. Never to the left. Is the M8 at fault here? The only lenses I am using by the way are voigtlander and old canons. Though, my LTM adaptor is a cheap ebay one. Does this contribute to the problem? The adaptor works well with my old RD-1 though... Should I tell the seller he sold me a defective unit? Or maybe it got screwed during shipping perhaps? This is my first Leica, and despite the reports of M8 problems, I figured it was all exaggerated, and took the plunge. Now it seems I got a failed unit as well.. help! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dpattinson Posted October 24, 2009 Share #2 Posted October 24, 2009 It does sound like the camera is at fault. Another possibility is that you have accidentally set +2EV compensation in the menus? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinkfloyd Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share #3 Posted October 24, 2009 I was given a 2gb SD card with the camera, and it seems to take fine pictures. Checked the settings, and it works well. Maybe the camera got busted in transit? Even if I dial in -2 ev comp, it still overexposes in lowlight situations... Oh, and if I use it manually, the arrow just indicates to the right, and even if I turn the shutter dial all the way, it never indicates a left arrow or that exposure is correct... My worry is, after spending my life savings on this and waiting 3 weeks to get it (I'm from the Philippines), do I have to have it shipped and repaired again (making me spend again)? This is so frustrating... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mc_k Posted October 24, 2009 Share #4 Posted October 24, 2009 It should meter just like the r-d1. Is the battery charged? I would reinstall the battery and reset the camera from the menu. On "A" I would try shooting with and without the exposure lock. Try manual, wide open, 2500 ISO, 1s, lens cap off ... still no left arrow? I would play around with the manual settings to look for a pattern. The adapter is not an issue. I'm sure there will be someone here to help you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinkfloyd Posted October 24, 2009 Author Share #5 Posted October 24, 2009 The battery has been fully charged, I reset the menu several times now. Even re-installed the latest firmware update (2.004). Still no avail. I did what you suggested, the left arrow appears only if the light source is within the viewfinder. If the light source is within the viewfinder, it meters ok (sometimes spot-on, sometimes overexposed about 1-2 stops.) But if the light source is not within the viewfinder, the meter says 32secs or 16 secs, if on manual mode, it's just the right arrow blinking... So whether it's on manual mode or A mode, if the light source cannot be seen in the viewfinder, even if the scene is well lit (ex., the light source is above me, shining on an object without my shadow blocking it), it overexposes badly. As in, badly about 10 stops if the camera would allow it... I'm at the end of my rope! Argh! Help please! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 24, 2009 Share #6 Posted October 24, 2009 "If I use it in manual mode, the arrows always point to the right. Never to the left. Is the M8 at fault here? " By fixing your screen of computer for example at 0,70 cms , in manual mode, turn the wheel of exposition speed . The left arrow appears in my case between 8000 and 250 . and in 125 there is a red point, and if i continue to turn then the right arrow appears. The diaphragm is opened for me at f :1,4 (i have a summilux 35mm on my M8) Try to make as I have just said and said me what you see ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mc_k Posted October 24, 2009 Share #7 Posted October 24, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) you two will need to be at same ISO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicoleica Posted October 24, 2009 Share #8 Posted October 24, 2009 These may seem like silly questions, but what ISO setting and aperture settings are you using? I only ask this because the only variable you have mentioned changing is the shutter speed. Also, what lenses are you using? There are some lenses which will block the path of light from the shutter to the meter cell. (Unlikely I know, but I'm just trying to exhaust all possibilities here.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinkfloyd Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share #9 Posted October 25, 2009 @Doc Henry: When the right arrow blinks, I turn the shutter dial all the way till it returns to where I started with no change. So I start at 1/8000, the right arrow blinks, I turn and it continues to blink till I have returned to 1/8000. @Nicole: I tried using all combinations now. From 160 up to 2500. Aperture all wide open (using 1.4, 1.9 and 2.5), about twice only stopped down did I test. The lenses I used were the VC 40/1.4, Canon 50/1.9, and a VC 75/2.5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mc_k Posted October 25, 2009 Share #10 Posted October 25, 2009 Also, what lenses are you using? There are some lenses which will block the path of light from the shutter to the meter cell. ...Super Angulon and Elmarit 28 can interfere with metering, right? From the description you have given it looks like you may have a defect in your camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 25, 2009 Share #11 Posted October 25, 2009 @Doc Henry: When the right arrow blinks, I turn the shutter dial all the way till it returns to where I started with no change. So I start at 1/8000, the right arrow blinks, I turn and it continues to blink till I have returned to 1/8000. It is not normal , it is necessary to have a reaction "right" arrow then "left" arrow and by putting in "A" mode, what happens ? What lens have you on your M8 ? is it encoded ? and lens "detected" position ? yes or no ? On my M8 i am in "detected" position :all my lens are encoded in Solms Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicoleica Posted October 25, 2009 Share #12 Posted October 25, 2009 This does indeed sound as if there is something awry with the camera's metering system. Before you send it in for repair though, have you looked inside the camera to check that there isn't anything obstructing the metering cell? And finally, if there is any chance of testing the camera with a Leica lens (Or another make with an M mount.) it would be good to do so, just to rule out any possibility of your LTM adaptor being at fault. (Although this possibility is rather unlikely as far as I know.) I hope that you are able to resolve this problem quickly, and can then begin to enjoy using your camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mc_k Posted October 25, 2009 Share #13 Posted October 25, 2009 ... just to rule out any possibility of your LTM adaptor being at fault. (Although this possibility is rather unlikely as far as I know.) am curious how an adapter could cause this symptom? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicoleica Posted October 25, 2009 Share #14 Posted October 25, 2009 am curious how an adapter could cause this symptom? I was thinking that it might perhaps be an unusual design which protruded far enough into the camera body that it might obscure the meter sensor. As I said though, rather unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mc_k Posted October 25, 2009 Share #15 Posted October 25, 2009 thanks N Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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