wattsy Posted October 25, 2009 Share #21 Posted October 25, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not owning an M9,but my dealer here in Germany mentioned that Leica do still reccommend using the IR Cut filters even with the M9...Is this then false advice? or is there still a slight IR issue? I don't doubt that there is still some IR sensitivity if you look for it (especially under tungsten) but, for all practical purposes, the issue now seems to have been resolved. I shot a black tie event last week using both the M9 and M8 (the latter with IR filter) and there is no discernible difference in the way either camera handled the black of (no doubt many) artificial fibre dinner jackets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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carstenw Posted October 25, 2009 Share #22 Posted October 25, 2009 That sounds unlikely. They would have to have three menu settings for IR then, for wideangle lenses: off, lens recognition (built-in IR filter correction), lens recognition + IR filter on lens. Otherwise you would get cyan corners again. I don't think the M9 has that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbgeach Posted October 25, 2009 Share #23 Posted October 25, 2009 I actually think the shot originally posted would not have required an IR filter. I rarely use an IR filter on my m8, only if I see a weird color and I don't want to go black and white Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share #24 Posted October 25, 2009 I actually think the shot originally posted would not have required an IR filter. Agreed. This one however would need an IR filter had it been taken with the M8, and in this situation, there is no time to take the filter off and put it back on. I am sure that some people will argue that those light sources on top would not have been a problem with an IR filter. I think they would have caused havoc. my dealer here in Germany mentioned that Leica do still reccommend using the IR Cut filters even with the M9 I don't think Leica recommends still using a UV/IR filter. Maybe a UV filter to protect your lens, but I don't see the need for it anymore. I would maybe use one if I was shooting fashion or a commercial assignment featuring black fabrics, but usually, I shoot "naked." Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/101294-the-beauty-of-shooting-without-filters/?do=findComment&comment=1089403'>More sharing options...
Guest EarlBurrellPhoto Posted October 26, 2009 Share #25 Posted October 26, 2009 I don't doubt that there is still some IR sensitivity if you look for it (especially under tungsten) but, for all practical purposes, the issue now seems to have been resolved. I shot a black tie event last week using both the M9 and M8 (the latter with IR filter) and there is no discernible difference in the way either camera handled the black of (no doubt many) artificial fibre dinner jackets. I think whereas with the M8 it was a glaring and undeniable issue to every photographer (except of course to Leica's in-house testers and the journalists who tested it pre-release ), with the M9 it is reduced to a matter of discernment and acceptance, thus far more photographers may either not see the IR contamination or find it within their standards. If the issue were fully resolved, I daresay Leica would've not published the disclaimer in their official literature. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share #26 Posted October 26, 2009 If the issue were fully resolved, I daresay Leica would've not published the disclaimer in their official literature.EarlBurrellPhoto is online now Report Post Reply With Quote I think they knew that everyone is looking for the problem this time around and they were just really cautious not to challenge the naysayers. I for my part am pleasantly surprised how well the internal IR filter works, and honestly even wondering whether this technology could not have been applied to the M8. I know they're saying that it is a new coating etc., but who knows? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EarlBurrellPhoto Posted October 26, 2009 Share #27 Posted October 26, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think they knew that everyone is looking for the problem this time around and they were just really cautious not to challenge the naysayers. I for my part am pleasantly surprised how well the internal IR filter works, and honestly even wondering whether this technology could not have been applied to the M8. I know they're saying that it is a new coating etc., but who knows? And I daresay we'll never know unless someone hacks into an M9 and transplants the IR glass onto an M8 and then reworks all of the firmware processing to optimal. However in my book 'a miss by an inch is a miss by a mile' and I find IR filters still quite essential under certain circumstances with the M9, whilst not at all with my 1DS-Mk2 and 3, and 5D-Mk1 and 2. And because there is no in-camera correction for cyan drift with the M9 and IR front-filters, thus adding an extra step in post, I rather find the M8 works better for me in my work. If the M9 was my camera for holiday happy snaps, I'd also be satisfied with the M9 IR performance minus filters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted October 26, 2009 Share #28 Posted October 26, 2009 However in my book 'a miss by an inch is a miss by a mile' and I find IR filters still quite essential under certain circumstances with the M9, whilst not at all with my 1DS-Mk2 and 3, and 5D-Mk1 and 2. Jay, do you have any examples you could show which demonstrate your point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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