viramati Posted October 15, 2009 Share #1 Â Posted October 15, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) has anyone tried the 16-18-21 on the M9? reason for asking is that I'm considering getting one and will be upgrading to M9 at some point and some feedback would be welcom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 Hi viramati, Take a look here 16-18-21 on M9. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
marknorton Posted October 15, 2009 Share #2 Â Posted October 15, 2009 I did try it but left the lens cap on so cannot say what the pictures would have been like... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMacD Posted October 15, 2009 Share #3 Â Posted October 15, 2009 Should be great. I have the WATE on an M8 and as I love wides most of the reason for wanting a FF M9 is to get ultra wide. If you do architecture or interiors, the finder is valuable just to get the bubble level. Otherwise, it's merely an option and a large block at that. Remember the WATE is an actual zoom lens, you can frame very critically if you wish. When I get my M9 I'll let you know. (been on order since August 3) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piero Posted October 15, 2009 Share #4 Â Posted October 15, 2009 M9 Â here you can find some samples of 18/21 shots with the WATE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henning Posted October 15, 2009 Share #5 Â Posted October 15, 2009 Not that it shows that much, but here is one: Â L1000075 Â My WATE and borrowed M9 at the LHSA thing last weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander †Posted October 15, 2009 Share #6  Posted October 15, 2009 Here is a test shot at 16mm/f5.6. So far I think it works well. You have to manually set the focal length, otherwise I think it assumes 18mm.  I was concerned that it would not perform well on the M9 but I'll be keeping mine. I used the CV 12mm on the M8 but this is better.  Jeff Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/100218-16-18-21-on-m9/?do=findComment&comment=1075693'>More sharing options...
gravastar Posted October 15, 2009 Share #7 Â Posted October 15, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Here is a test shot at 16mm/f5.6. So far I think it works well. You have to manually set the focal length, otherwise I think it assumes 18mm.....................Jeff If you set lens detection to "Auto" then the focal length reported in the EXIF information is 16mm regardless of the setting on the lens. If you manually set the focal length in the menu then the EXIF reports the set focal length. In practice I've not seen any difference between corner corrections applied in the manual settings and auto. It seems as if the same corrections are applied to the 16, 18 and 21mm settings, the only thing setting the focal length manually seems to do is to report the setting in the EXIF data. I believe Stephen Daniels has said as much at some time. The lens works well on the M9 . Â Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander †Posted October 15, 2009 Share #8  Posted October 15, 2009 Hi Bob, You are right about 16mm being recorded in the exif on the auto setting. I did wonder about individual corrections for the focal lengths.  Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Fines Posted October 15, 2009 Share #9 Â Posted October 15, 2009 I just spent a few days shooting with an M9 and wate (as well as a 35lux and 75cron). Â The wate struck me as an excellent performer on the m9. Â I had a hard time getting accurate framing with the Leica finder. Since just about all my wate shots were on a tripod I found myself just taking a picture and using the LCD for framing. Â Kind of a poor man's live view. To me this lens and tripod shooting really spoke to why Leica needs liveview on this camera. Â But as to the lens, I'll definitely be keeping it. My wide shooting is 99% landscapes and so the f/4 is just fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander †Posted October 15, 2009 Share #10  Posted October 15, 2009 Steve welcome to this forum. Some great shots on your website, assuming you are the same guy that posts on getdpi.  Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Fines Posted October 15, 2009 Share #11  Posted October 15, 2009 Steve welcome to this forum. Some great shots on your website, assuming you are the same guy that posts on getdpi. Jeff  Thanks Jeff.  I used an M6 a long time ago, but with the M9 feel like a RF newbie again. Been browsing here and at getdpi for helpful info.  Here's one from the weekend. This was with the wate at 16mm. Front rocks were about 2 feet from the camera.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share #12 Â Posted October 15, 2009 thanks for all the answers. just wondering if people tend to use this lens with tripod or find it sharp wide open and handeld. I would be looking to use it for city/landscape and to start with on 8.2 and later on M9. at the moment I mostly use a Nikkor 24mm/f3.5 PC (perspective control) lens on a D700 and I manage to use this handheld but I can happily bump the iso to 800 with no real difference in IQ. what do you all think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelyleica Posted October 15, 2009 Share #13  Posted October 15, 2009 You can have a look on my web site here : M9 – de nouveaux sommets de piqué et de bouquet Farines-Photo Blog  16mm is now showing all it's power on M9. 16mm corner definition is the best you can find on a 35mm digital camera today.  (Tri-Elmar pictures taken with UVa 67mm filter). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted October 15, 2009 Share #14  Posted October 15, 2009 Hi There it's wonderful on the M9 There is no need to change the focal length in the lens selection unless you want the specific focal length in the exif - the corner correction works very well. the following were all taken with the WATE, hand held, with Auto lens correction.  The framelines on the WATE finder (frankenfinder) are really accurate on the M9. It's a lovely lens, and after you've removed the filter holder for the IR filter it even seems small.  I can't recommend it enough.  Wate on M9  Glykanera  Sfakia  Loutro  St Stavros Church  A bench with a view  A different kind of church  vapour trails Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravastar Posted October 15, 2009 Share #15 Â Posted October 15, 2009 ..................I had a hard time getting accurate framing with the Leica finder. Since just about all my wate shots were on a tripod I found myself just taking a picture and using the LCD for framing........................ I was going to ask Steve which finder he used. Like Jono I've found the "FrankenFinder" to be very accurate, especially since it has an adjustable parallax correction for various distances. That's most useful for work with closeup foregrounds. Â The worst finder in my opinion is the small barrel shaped 21-24-28 I used with the WATE on the M8. Not only do the edges of the field of view depend on eye position they're also not well defined. In addition if you require a diopter correction lens the diopter value depends on the focal length setting. It's a finder I wouldn't have bought if I'd known it's limitations beforehand. Â Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michali Posted October 15, 2009 Share #16  Posted October 15, 2009 M9 & Tri-Elmar @ 16mm  This lens shows its true potential on this camera, as do most of my lenses on the M9. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/100218-16-18-21-on-m9/?do=findComment&comment=1076576'>More sharing options...
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