damcats Posted January 30, 2011 Share #1 Posted January 30, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I purchased a Leica X1 a month ago, and overall I am very pleased with the camera. While using the camera, I began noticing some pictures were very overexposed, even though I was in Aperture priority and the shutter speed selected by camera was fine (no where near 1/2000 or over). Many times I would take another picture and the next picture would be fine, or I would change the aperture value one stop down and the picture would be well exposed. I tried a simple test below (nothing fancy, just a picture of my TV) and shot two pictures back to back. I have no logical explanation as to why the second shot is so overexposed and washed out given the exact same shutter speed, aperture and ISO were used. I am now beginning to think I have a defective camera as I have noticed this during all three outings with this camera and now with this simple test. I would appreciate any guidance or advice on this as I am very disappointed if I need to send this camera in for service (only have been using it a month after purchasing from B&H). Thanks Dave markleyimages.com Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/142934-x1-help/?do=findComment&comment=1573917'>More sharing options...
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Walt Calahan Posted January 30, 2011 Share #2 Posted January 30, 2011 I don't own an X1, but once had a similar experience with a DSLR camera. Turns out I accidentally activated the auto-blacket feature of the camera. If the X1 has an auto-bracket setting, I'd check it to make sure it is turned off. Your camera might have a defect if the camera does not have an auto-bracket, or that it is set not to function. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allnm Posted January 30, 2011 Share #3 Posted January 30, 2011 Sorry to hear you are having problems. Its difficult to say what could be causing this but I would check the exposure metering mode used and that exposure bracketing isnt turned on. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damcats Posted January 30, 2011 Author Share #4 Posted January 30, 2011 Thanks...auto bracketing was not turned on. Also, the exact same ISO, Aperture and Shutter Speed was used on both pictures (taken within 5 seconds of each other. I appreciate the response. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
h00ligan Posted January 30, 2011 Share #5 Posted January 30, 2011 Do you have positive ev set when in ae accidentally? I have noticed the x1 overexposed in ae mode, but I haven't shot back to back to see the difference, I'll check now if mine behaves the same way for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damcats Posted January 30, 2011 Author Share #6 Posted January 30, 2011 No, I verfied AE exposure is set to zero. I can recreate the problem almost at will at this point. Another example. I just took some shots outside in the snow. When I set aperture to 2.8 (camera picked 1/250 shutter speed), the picture is blown out by at least three fstops. When I set aperture to 4 (camera picked 1/125), the exposure is fine. Another example, I manually set the shutter speed to 1/2000 and left the aperture at f2.8. The meter reading showed I should have been several stops underexposed given the high shutter speed. The picture comes back at least three stops overexposed. When I go to full program, all works fine. Very strange, but I am certain this is not operator error (I am pretty familiar with all types of cameras). I wish it were operator error! Thanks Edward! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allnm Posted January 31, 2011 Share #7 Posted January 31, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) How about the old standby, reset to factory defaults ( Menu>user profile> factory settings) just in case something has upset it..... Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
h00ligan Posted January 31, 2011 Share #8 Posted January 31, 2011 I can't get it to expose correct,then overexpose..but without -ev the camera faithfully overexposed by 2/3 stop-1 stop even indoors. Also, if the computer brain of the camera can choose in between shutter speeds and iso, eg 1/13 or iso 2000.. We should be able to as well, add it in the firmware leica! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phancj Posted January 31, 2011 Share #9 Posted January 31, 2011 I'd get it checked if I were you, mine exposes right, no worse than my D300. CJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolvrne Posted February 1, 2011 Share #10 Posted February 1, 2011 I also have similar experience to find sometimes my indoor pictures with the same exposure settings would look very different, some of them would be darker. After careful examination, I found that those darker ones are taken with image stabilization on. I know that when IS is on, two photos would be taken (one fastr, one slower) to synthesize a sharp photo. So I think this might be the reason for us to see photos with different exposure levels while using the same setting. After I turned off my IS, the pictures all look the same now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted February 1, 2011 Share #11 Posted February 1, 2011 Dave, welcome to the forum! Have you tried making a series of exposures, of different subjects, using manual exposure metering mode? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damcats Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share #12 Posted February 1, 2011 Thanks everyone. Image stabilization is not on. I have tried manual exposure where for example i purposely underexpose by 5 stops and the picture comes back properly exposed or over exposed. Seems to happen when using max aperture or high shutter speeds. More light is coming into the camera somehow...either defective shutter timing or something. I am at a loss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allnm Posted February 1, 2011 Share #13 Posted February 1, 2011 I just tried a dozen or more indoor shots using all settings( P A S M ) and almost all seemed to expose properly. the ones with exposure problems were when the camera was set to spot metering. Other than that, I dont see any glaring exposure problems with mine. Can you get a try another X1 side by side with yours before you sent it in? On the plus side, seems when most people i have read about send the camera in to Leica, it comes back perfect as its been worked on one to one. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted February 1, 2011 Share #14 Posted February 1, 2011 Dave, in view of your recent purchase, I recommend you take up the matter with the vendor immediately. If a dealer, and if the camera was new, request a new replacement. You should not have to wait its return to Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damcats Posted February 1, 2011 Author Share #15 Posted February 1, 2011 Thanks everyone! I have a query into Dale Photography, where I purchased the camera. I hope I can get a new replacement rather than sending to Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damcats Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share #16 Posted February 2, 2011 Dale Photo agreed to replace my defective X1 with a new one. I am very thrilled with their service and I look forward to shooting my "new" X1 again soon. Thanks to everyone who replied. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
h00ligan Posted February 3, 2011 Share #17 Posted February 3, 2011 I replicated this tonight. It was dimly lit, I was shooting jpg, this happened. Were you shooting raw (sorry if that's covered). This happened to me when I tried to take pictures in rapid succession. FWIW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
damcats Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share #18 Posted February 3, 2011 Edward, that is interesting. The only difference for me is I was not shooting continous and I was shooting RAW (with JPG too since we cannot shoot RAW only). Also, I was seeing this in outdoor situations as well as dimly lit. I am curious if this is a broader issue. I hope I don't see the same issue with new camera as it was happening far too frequently for me to trust and use the camera regularly. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
h00ligan Posted February 3, 2011 Share #19 Posted February 3, 2011 I couldn't replicate this today in daylight, I tried during a bright time. I'll check back in if I notice it again. On a similar note.. the white balance seems to take a short bit to recalibrate as well, even when shooting the same subject... interesting. I wasn't trying to replicate the issue when it happened - isn't that always the way! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reginaldwatkins Posted February 12, 2011 Share #20 Posted February 12, 2011 I had to send my X1 in for repair to New Jersey. The camera had an erratic focus, they replaced the lens. It was a very pleasant experience, no complaints. In my humble opinion, the one on the right looks like an unprocessed DNG file, my DNG's are always over exposed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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