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I saw a post elsewhere that Lightroom holds a profile for the first Summicron-S, a 100mm, very interesting! If they introduce a line of Summicron lenses and up the pixel count for the forth coming model I will certainly consider moving to the S rather than my current Blad/Phase. A 70mm Summilux, even, would be an absolute dream, albeit, an astronomically priced one. While I find the "smaller" sensor disinteresting, the lenses will certainly be giving me something I feel I am missing in my current set up and the wider apertures will compensate somewhat for the smaller sensor.

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I wonder how big/large/heavy a 70 mm 'Lux would become.

 

Personally, I feel that - besides documentary and reportage - I don't need wider apertures. DOF is already very thin with the 45x30 sensor. But then again, I come from television (ENG) cameras and 16 mm film, so the S sensor looks huge to me.

 

I would certainly welcome more lens options and I can understand people wanting f2.0 or even f1.4 but I'd be curious about what this would do for the IQ. I mean, my 70 mm already shows quite a lot of CA wide open and I wonder if one isn't going to be optically better off with a larger sensor camera system and a smaller aperture, if it's thin DOF one wants.

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veraikon

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Today they announced in the new LFI magazine the release of the Summicron 1:2/100mm. But no price or exact release date.

 

PK 2014 starts at 16.09.2014 - perhaps they present it there (preproduction sample?)

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Leica Camera stellt mit dem Summicron-S 2/100 mm ASPH. (6500 Euro) ein neues lichtstarkes leichtes Teleobjektiv für die Leica S vor, das ab photokina 2014 verfügbar sein soll:

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Leica Summicron-S 2/100 mm ASPH. | photoscala

 

[b]Summicron-S 2/100 mm ASPH. Technische Daten [/b]

Optischer Aufbau: 	7 Linsen in 5 Gruppen
Lichtstärke: 	           1:2 (äquiv. zu 1,6 KB-Format)
Brennweite:  	          100 mm (äquiv. zu 80 mm KB-Format)
Bildwinkel (diagonal/horizontal/vertikal): 	29/24,7/16,4
Naheinstellgrenze: 	0,7 m
Abmessung (Länge x Breite): 	102 x 91 mm
Gewicht:	           910 g
Lieferumfang: 	Objektiv mit Gegenlichtblende, Rückdeckel, Objektiv-Frontdeckel E82, Transportbeutel, Bedienungsanleitung, Garantiekarte, Prüfungszeugnis und optischem Reinigungstuch

Benötigte Firmware: Leica S (Typ 006) ab FW 2.4.0.0 ; Leica S2 ab FW 1.4.0.0

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Thank you Veraikon for the info.

 

A quick translation of the text from the photoscala.de web page:

 

Leica Camera introduces the Summicron-S 100mm f2 ASPH (6500 euros), a new fast (high speed) lightweight telephoto lens for the Leica S, which should be available from photokina 2014.

 

According to Leica Camera, the lens uses high-refraction special glasses with minimal dispersion. It contains 7 elemets, including 3 with anomalous partial dispersion and a double-sided aspherical lens, arranged in five groups. The last lens element is designed as a "floating element". Leica promises a perfect seal against dust and splashing water (weather-proof).

 

Technical specs:

 

Lens construction: 7 elements in 5 groups

Lens speed: f2 (equivalent to f1.6 in 35mm 24x36 format)

Focal length: 100mm (equivalent to 80mm in 35mm 24x36 format)

Image angle (diagonal / horizontal / vertical): 29 / 24,7 / 16,4 degrees (P.S. only the diagonal angle is really useful…)

Closest focusing distance: 0.7 m (about 2.3 feet)

Weight: 910 grams (about 32.1 oz)

 

And yes, it is autofocus (not MF)

 

Scope of delivery (i.e. what comes in the box): Lens with lens hood, rear lens cap, lens front cap E82, carrying bag, user manual, warranty card, certificate and optical cleaning cloth

 

Important info:

The required firmware for this lens will be:

Leica S (type 006) from FW 2.4.0.0

Leica S2 from FW 1.4.0.0

 

From the text in Photoscala, it would seem that while this lens will use an aspherical surface, anomalous partial dispersion glass (Leica's secret weapon…) and a floating element, it will not be of apochromatic correction.

 

According to the LeicaRumors.com website, we can expect a lot of exiciting new products at Photokina. Have a look:

Leica fans can expect "exciting news" at Photokina | Leica News & Rumors

 

Personally, what I would really like to see from Leica is a 30mm f4 (or something around f4 to f4.8) PC-TS (tilt and shift) lens with symmetrical design (like on Leica M) along with a mirrorless version of the Leica S. For architecture photographers, this would be a fantastic combination. And since this camera would be mirrorless, make it an autofocus lens - the first of its kind !

 

And please Leica, don't tell us it's impossible or useless - Fuji is already working on this for its X-PRO (APS-C) camera system. So, who will be first… Fuji or Leica ?

 

Cheers,

 

John-F

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Surprisingly, from the above specs, the 100mm Summicron seems to be some 20mm shorter and 20g lighter than the 35mm Summarit, though a bit bigger than the 70mm. Impressive achievement!

 

Doug

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I wonder what the "character" of the Summicron will be... Neatly sandwiched between the 120 and 70mm, only modestly different in focal length from either, how will the high speed enter into its intended use? Will it be sharp sharp sharp all the way as might be expected from a new Summicron, or will it be a bit soft at wider apertures, with portraits in mind?

 

It seems to be internal focusing... Could that rear floating element be optionally used in some clever way through user-control to add optical "defects" for artistic purposes? Mere speculation of course as focus may be its only possible function.

 

Doug

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Dpreview reviews says "... this lens a similar proposition to the 85mm f/1.2 type lens used on full-frame digital and film SLRs."

 

The angle of view and focus depth should be equivalent to a 80mm f/1.6 in 35mm, yes?

 

Oops, the specs quoted above already confirm this. Sorry.

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Thats the 100th anniversary edition.. thats why it has the engraving..

 

Rob

Oh - I didn't realize. For a moment I had the fantasy Leica would now engrave lens' optical formulas on the barrel ;-)

 

Congratulations, Patrick. Please share some results,

 

I second that - very curious how it compares to the 70 and 120 S lenses in character.

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