Paul J Posted July 27, 2014 Share #1 Posted July 27, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I saw a post elsewhere that Lightroom holds a profile for the first Summicron-S, a 100mm, very interesting! If they introduce a line of Summicron lenses and up the pixel count for the forth coming model I will certainly consider moving to the S rather than my current Blad/Phase. A 70mm Summilux, even, would be an absolute dream, albeit, an astronomically priced one. While I find the "smaller" sensor disinteresting, the lenses will certainly be giving me something I feel I am missing in my current set up and the wider apertures will compensate somewhat for the smaller sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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120 Posted July 27, 2014 Share #2 Posted July 27, 2014 yes, the small-format sensor was a step I still don't understand. That and the 100 lens no-show delayed my purchase for 4 yrs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted July 28, 2014 Share #3 Posted July 28, 2014 I wonder how big/large/heavy a 70 mm 'Lux would become. Personally, I feel that - besides documentary and reportage - I don't need wider apertures. DOF is already very thin with the 45x30 sensor. But then again, I come from television (ENG) cameras and 16 mm film, so the S sensor looks huge to me. I would certainly welcome more lens options and I can understand people wanting f2.0 or even f1.4 but I'd be curious about what this would do for the IQ. I mean, my 70 mm already shows quite a lot of CA wide open and I wonder if one isn't going to be optically better off with a larger sensor camera system and a smaller aperture, if it's thin DOF one wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejandro AR Posted August 5, 2014 Share #4 Posted August 5, 2014 Today they announced in the new LFI magazine the release of the Summicron 1:2/100mm. But no price or exact release date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
120 Posted August 6, 2014 Share #5 Posted August 6, 2014 Any more details...I guess there is no chance this is a light weight, manual focus lens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
veraikon Posted August 6, 2014 Share #6 Posted August 6, 2014 Today they announced in the new LFI magazine the release of the Summicron 1:2/100mm. But no price or exact release date. PK 2014 starts at 16.09.2014 - perhaps they present it there (preproduction sample?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
veraikon Posted August 6, 2014 Share #7 Posted August 6, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica Camera stellt mit dem Summicron-S 2/100 mm ASPH. (6500 Euro) ein neues lichtstarkes leichtes Teleobjektiv für die Leica S vor, das ab photokina 2014 verfügbar sein soll: ... Leica Summicron-S 2/100 mm ASPH. | photoscala [b]Summicron-S 2/100 mm ASPH. Technische Daten [/b] Optischer Aufbau: 7 Linsen in 5 Gruppen Lichtstärke: 1:2 (äquiv. zu 1,6 KB-Format) Brennweite: 100 mm (äquiv. zu 80 mm KB-Format) Bildwinkel (diagonal/horizontal/vertikal): 29/24,7/16,4 Naheinstellgrenze: 0,7 m Abmessung (Länge x Breite): 102 x 91 mm Gewicht: 910 g Lieferumfang: Objektiv mit Gegenlichtblende, Rückdeckel, Objektiv-Frontdeckel E82, Transportbeutel, Bedienungsanleitung, Garantiekarte, Prüfungszeugnis und optischem Reinigungstuch Benötigte Firmware: Leica S (Typ 006) ab FW 2.4.0.0 ; Leica S2 ab FW 1.4.0.0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_f Posted August 7, 2014 Share #8 Posted August 7, 2014 Thank you Veraikon for the info. A quick translation of the text from the photoscala.de web page: Leica Camera introduces the Summicron-S 100mm f2 ASPH (6500 euros), a new fast (high speed) lightweight telephoto lens for the Leica S, which should be available from photokina 2014. According to Leica Camera, the lens uses high-refraction special glasses with minimal dispersion. It contains 7 elemets, including 3 with anomalous partial dispersion and a double-sided aspherical lens, arranged in five groups. The last lens element is designed as a "floating element". Leica promises a perfect seal against dust and splashing water (weather-proof). Technical specs: Lens construction: 7 elements in 5 groups Lens speed: f2 (equivalent to f1.6 in 35mm 24x36 format) Focal length: 100mm (equivalent to 80mm in 35mm 24x36 format) Image angle (diagonal / horizontal / vertical): 29 / 24,7 / 16,4 degrees (P.S. only the diagonal angle is really useful…) Closest focusing distance: 0.7 m (about 2.3 feet) Weight: 910 grams (about 32.1 oz) And yes, it is autofocus (not MF) Scope of delivery (i.e. what comes in the box): Lens with lens hood, rear lens cap, lens front cap E82, carrying bag, user manual, warranty card, certificate and optical cleaning cloth Important info: The required firmware for this lens will be: Leica S (type 006) from FW 2.4.0.0 Leica S2 from FW 1.4.0.0 From the text in Photoscala, it would seem that while this lens will use an aspherical surface, anomalous partial dispersion glass (Leica's secret weapon…) and a floating element, it will not be of apochromatic correction. According to the LeicaRumors.com website, we can expect a lot of exiciting new products at Photokina. Have a look: Leica fans can expect "exciting news" at Photokina | Leica News & Rumors Personally, what I would really like to see from Leica is a 30mm f4 (or something around f4 to f4.8) PC-TS (tilt and shift) lens with symmetrical design (like on Leica M) along with a mirrorless version of the Leica S. For architecture photographers, this would be a fantastic combination. And since this camera would be mirrorless, make it an autofocus lens - the first of its kind ! And please Leica, don't tell us it's impossible or useless - Fuji is already working on this for its X-PRO (APS-C) camera system. So, who will be first… Fuji or Leica ? Cheers, John-F Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougg Posted August 8, 2014 Share #9 Posted August 8, 2014 Surprisingly, from the above specs, the 100mm Summicron seems to be some 20mm shorter and 20g lighter than the 35mm Summarit, though a bit bigger than the 70mm. Impressive achievement! Doug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougg Posted August 11, 2014 Share #10 Posted August 11, 2014 I wonder what the "character" of the Summicron will be... Neatly sandwiched between the 120 and 70mm, only modestly different in focal length from either, how will the high speed enter into its intended use? Will it be sharp sharp sharp all the way as might be expected from a new Summicron, or will it be a bit soft at wider apertures, with portraits in mind? It seems to be internal focusing... Could that rear floating element be optionally used in some clever way through user-control to add optical "defects" for artistic purposes? Mere speculation of course as focus may be its only possible function. Doug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted September 5, 2014 Share #11 Posted September 5, 2014 Leica launches 100mm F2 Summicron for medium format S system: Digital Photography Review Summicron-S 100 mm f/2 ASPH. // Leica S-Lenses // Leica S // Photography - Leica Camera AG $7995 (plus taxes, as applicable) in the US Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan.y Posted September 7, 2014 Share #12 Posted September 7, 2014 Dpreview reviews says "... this lens a similar proposition to the 85mm f/1.2 type lens used on full-frame digital and film SLRs." The angle of view and focus depth should be equivalent to a 80mm f/1.6 in 35mm, yes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan.y Posted September 7, 2014 Share #13 Posted September 7, 2014 Dpreview reviews says "... this lens a similar proposition to the 85mm f/1.2 type lens used on full-frame digital and film SLRs." The angle of view and focus depth should be equivalent to a 80mm f/1.6 in 35mm, yes? Oops, the specs quoted above already confirm this. Sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyZulunuz Posted September 14, 2014 Share #14 Posted September 14, 2014 After "ogling" Zeiss' surreptitious throttling of the Summarit-S 120/2.5 (via their Camera Lens Blog) with the OTUS 85/1.4, I'm wondering if the Summicron-S 100/2 was devised to compete directly with the OTUS? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McMaster Posted September 14, 2014 Share #15 Posted September 14, 2014 I guess you are meaning A lens class of its own | Camera Lens Blog ? Probably medium format 1 is S and #2 Hasselblad, the Otus is impressively sharp but about the same weight as the S 120mm. I know which I would rather have... Also, not aware of any MTF graphs for the Summicron yet. john Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amoebahydra Posted September 18, 2014 Share #16 Posted September 18, 2014 I got mine today ......................... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/231174-100mm-summicron-s/?do=findComment&comment=2672661'>More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted September 18, 2014 Share #17 Posted September 18, 2014 Any sample shots yet? What's with the optical formula engraving near the lens mount? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVB Posted September 18, 2014 Share #18 Posted September 18, 2014 Any sample shots yet?What's with the optical formula engraving near the lens mount? Thats the 100th anniversary edition.. thats why it has the engraving.. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted September 18, 2014 Share #19 Posted September 18, 2014 Congratulations, Patrick. Please share some results, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted September 18, 2014 Share #20 Posted September 18, 2014 Thats the 100th anniversary edition.. thats why it has the engraving.. Rob Oh - I didn't realize. For a moment I had the fantasy Leica would now engrave lens' optical formulas on the barrel ;-) Congratulations, Patrick. Please share some results, I second that - very curious how it compares to the 70 and 120 S lenses in character. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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