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Default Collapsible Summicron and Type I Rigid Summicron Comparison Shots

This is an informal lens test between two of my Favorite lenses, A late Collapsible Summicron that I CLA'd myself, and a 1957 Type I Rigid Summicron that I had professionally CLA'd. Both are very clean, and I think representative of their type.

This is not a test for absolute resolution of the lenses, but more of the rendition of the two pieces. These are as they came off of the scanner, and re-sized using photoshop. No post-scan processing for contrast or color balance.

First up: The Collapsible Summicron wide-open at F2.
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And the Type I Rigid, wide-open:
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The Collapsible Summicron at F2 and at F4:
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Type I Rigid Wide-Open at F2:
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One more with the Collapsible Summicron, wide-open with tight crop for center detail:
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Just one more Comparison! Not on the same roll, this is with a 1935 Uncoated Summar at F2:

YES! You can make any modern film look like Kodachrome 10! Can anyone doubt that there is a special quality to these lenses, designed WITHOUT the aid of a computer?
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Thanks for sharing. I have just adquired the collapsible and the type I (Dual Range with gogles) and I'm in the process of using them. I expect to get as good results as your photos when I'm done using them.
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Interesting, I like the old lenses, I have a 50 Elmar 2,8 and a 90 F4 They have a wonderful soft quality wide open, and are great for giving a '50's look.
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I love the older lenses, particularly for B&W.
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Thank you for this interesting test. Yes, the Summar is a beauty. Unfortunately, very sensbible to flare. But a good coated Summar could do a very good job indeed.
However, the judgement of lenses in black and white is quite different.
This is what I did with the 50mm collapsible Summicron whide open:
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And this is the rigid, but at F4:
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Brian,
Thanks for the comparisons. My rigid Summicron may be of a similar age as your rigid Summicron.
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Thanks Brian, very interesting comparisons.
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