Leicaiste Posted November 12, 2009 Share #41  Posted November 12, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I remember a Leica session with the former importer of Leica in Holland, ODIN, when one of the partcipants had a brand-new Apo-Summicron ASPH 90/2 (M). Erwin Puts put our lenses on the collimator (if that is what is was called) and that particular super duper, just on the market, Apo Summi was totally out of whack. Spectacularly so. We dubbed it the Apo-Thambar, and the owner was not amused  Hi Sander,  I should remember, it was mine.  After that Leica lost it (?!?) and sent me a new (perfect) one.   Best,  Lucien Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 12, 2009 Posted November 12, 2009 Hi Leicaiste, Take a look here Leitz Thambar 90mm f.2.2 on M9..?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Overgaard Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share #42  Posted November 12, 2009 Hi,I just bought a Thambar two weeks ago in Shanghai, seems in very good condition. Exited, I went to nearby XinTianDi, a conservation project/restaurant area, and snap some pictures with it. Here are some unedited photos, taken with M8, approx   [ATTACH]172912[/ATTACH]  [ATTACH]172913[/ATTACH]  [ATTACH]172914[/ATTACH] f2.8/3.2  I like the fist one very much. Tell us more about how it feels and how it is working with it. And post more pictures! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ro8881 Posted November 13, 2009 Share #43  Posted November 13, 2009 I like the fist one very much. Tell us more about how it feels and how it is working with it. And post more pictures!  It feels AMAZING and WONDERFUL. I am amaze by the quality of the lens despite it is uncoated, and seen through generations of technology growth. It feels wonderful to hold and look through the "eye" born in 1930s. It feels almost magical, I even imagine it will capture the scene in front of me as is 80 years ago!  Some collectors may feel that I am de-valuing the lens by using it, but I don't care, I think that if I don't use it, then it doesn't have any value at all. I think its very important for you to find one that is in good condition, not cosmetically, but the lens quality. With so many years probably not many will still be in good condition. I paid RMB28,000 for that lens (around US$4000) which I think is high, but I couldn't find another one I could see and touch before buying. In fact, like you, I thought long and hard for 6 months before taking the plunge. I went back to the shop every month when I make a trip to Shanghai, the price started at RMB35,000, and after around 5 visits, I managed to reduce it and then buy it. During that time, I took my M8 there and took a few test shots inside the shop as well. Not outdoor...the shop owner wouldn't hear of it There are some on ebay though, cheaper...but I personally don't feel good buying lens on ebay only because I can't see the lens quality.  Here more photo of the same person: the first three, were all taken around f2.8 and the last two around f3.2. I have not yet taken more than this round of test shots, but will try to do so this weekend. Thanks! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!     Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!     ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/98624-leitz-thambar-90mm-f22-on-m9/?do=findComment&comment=1114826'>More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted November 13, 2009 Share #44  Posted November 13, 2009 Ian, As you say one in the city (in Leadenhall Street) certainly became a branch of Dixons in the 1970's. I had forgotten that Dixons used to sell cameras before they became an online dealer and the only mass market camera dealer which sprang to mind, was Jessops. WH/Dixons in Leadenhall street shut down in the late 1970's when the site was bought by M&S. I believe there is still a WH named shop in New Bond Street. Was the M6 at a good price/  Wilson   In 1972 I saw a secondhand Leica with a lens for sale in Dixons window in Leadenhall Street for just £5. In those days, Dixons had a poor reputation and sold a lot of very cheap own band 'Prinz' audio and photographic equipment. I asked a photographer friend if it might be worth buying ( at that time I did not have a camera and knew nothing about photography) and he said, " No ... doubt if it all works properly ... looks ancient." I always wonder if that camera did work ok and wish I'd had the gumption to buy it. A few years later in 1977 I almost bought a Leica rangefinder from Paul Taylor in Cowgate, Peterborough (the local camera dealer, when Jessops had just one store in Leicester) - there were several on offer complete with lenses for around £40 each. I decided instead to buy a used Yashica TL Electro for £80 from local chemist D H Shrive. The Yashica is long gone but I expect those Leica cameras are still giving good service. Live and learn.  Regarding your Thambar lens, does it have the original spot filter and hood - with the silver coloured spot?  Cheers  dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epand56 Posted November 13, 2009 Share #45  Posted November 13, 2009 Hi,I just bought a Thambar two weeks ago in Shanghai, seems in very good condition. Exited, I went to nearby XinTianDi, a conservation project/restaurant area, and snap some pictures with it. Here are some unedited photos, taken with M8, approx  I've sold my 1961 Jupiter 80 right after I bought it because I wasn't happy on how it focused on pictures. And it was working quite better than this Thambar lens. Too much soft and flou for my taste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share #46 Â Posted November 13, 2009 I've sold my 1961 Jupiter 80 right after I bought it because I wasn't happy on how it focused on pictures. And it was working quite better than this Thambar lens.Too much soft and flou for my taste. Â If you focus on how the focus look on those pictures it's going to be disappointing. But if you look from the viewpoint of the subject, it could very well be the best photos she ever saw of her self. Â I can easily imagine you can make "star quality" pictures with this lens if you have the right distance and the light for it. Â But focus ... many hundred lens' does it better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epand56 Posted November 13, 2009 Share #47 Â Posted November 13, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) If you focus on how the focus look on those pictures it's going to be disappointing. But if you look from the viewpoint of the subject, it could very well be the best photos she ever saw of her self. Â Well, she would hardly come "disappointing" on any picture taken with any kind of lens. But if this is the best she ever saw of herself, I'm sure I could make her jump on her chair with just an Elmar-C 90/4... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share #48  Posted November 13, 2009 Well, she would hardly come "disappointing" on any picture taken with any kind of lens.But if this is the best she ever saw of herself, I'm sure I could make her jump on her chair with just an Elmar-C 90/4...  Well, I said could be  No doubt the older the subject is, the more they will appreciate the lens. She might prefer the 75/2 look for later reference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mc_k Posted November 13, 2009 Share #49 Â Posted November 13, 2009 Roland, thank you for posting these. Am looking forward to more pictures. Maybe try shooting more against the light, or with a backlighted subject, or pushing the exposure to get the highlights glowing. Â Also maybe a good exercise to stop the lens way down without the spot filter and see what you get. I am still wondering if the lens is a little more conventional stopped down. Â great model Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mc_k Posted November 13, 2009 Share #50 Â Posted November 13, 2009 ...She might prefer the 75/2 look for later reference. Â I read this in an old posting: " lux is for ladies, cron is for coal miners " (75mm) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanhulsenbeek Posted November 13, 2009 Share #51  Posted November 13, 2009 Hi Sander, I should remember, it was mine.  After that Leica lost it (?!?) and sent me a new (perfect) one.   Best,  Lucien  Hi Lucien! Good to see your again! How's life? Ciao! Sander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted November 17, 2009 Share #52  Posted November 17, 2009 I was offered a Thambar today and am considering buying it. Lens is in good condition with caps and the centre filter - the optics are a bit hazy according to the seller but no fungus. I could not see the haze as had no reading glasses with me - my varifocals are being repaired. Exterior of lens is is very nice condition with no obvious brassing. I'll check some recent auction prices tonight and then decide. Lens is not quite as rare as some people suggest as nearly 3000 were made - but collectors' demand is high. This example is in better exterior condition than others I've seen. They do not surface for sale very often. Shall I or shan't I ?... Decisions, decisions.  Cheers  dunk  After further discussions with the seller I have decided not to buy the Thambar as the haziness has not been remedied by the seller's technician.  Cheers  dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mc_k Posted November 17, 2009 Share #53 Â Posted November 17, 2009 sorry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orient XI Posted June 17, 2013 Share #54  Posted June 17, 2013 The search function directed me to this old thread. As nobody seems to have answered the original question, here are some test pictures taken with a Thambar and M9.  The photographs are of hawthorn (may) which has two major advantages over human portraits, (a) it never gets fed up whilst I fiddle with filters and apertures, ( it requires no fee of any sort.  The photographs were taken at 1m and, apart from the last, are close to full frame. They have received minimal post-processing. This has been confined to adjusting the given exposure by -1 stop and bring the white up to the mark by adjustment of the histogram in Lightroom. No sharpening has been applied by Lightroom.  The series shows the decrease in sharpness as the lens is opened up. As others have remarked in this thread, the centre spot gives rise to doughnuts (Am. donuts) in the bokeh. It must also be remembered that the depth of field also decreases along the series. What also decreased was the size of the jpeg files posted. The same jpeg quality settings was used throughout.  The last photograph, also taken at 1m, is enlarged greatly. The centre spot filter had been unscrewed and the lens stopped down to f/9. The definition here is remarkable for a 75-year old, uncoated lens.   Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!              Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!              ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/98624-leitz-thambar-90mm-f22-on-m9/?do=findComment&comment=2351268'>More sharing options...
Orient XI Posted June 17, 2013 Share #55 Â Posted June 17, 2013 Despite downloading the photos in the previous post in the order f / 6.3 to f / 2.3 in both the correct order and in order of the file #'s, they appear in random order. If a moderator can reshuffle them I would be most grateful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 17, 2013 Share #56 Â Posted June 17, 2013 Done Next time, after you have uploaded the images, click on the paperclip symbol and select "insert all" That will put the attachments in the text box of your message and allow you to rorganize them. As this is an old thread, it had not been moved into the lens section yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted June 17, 2013 Share #57 Â Posted June 17, 2013 Nice samples, thanks for that Orient! Â I'm very interested in this lens... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted June 17, 2013 Share #58  Posted June 17, 2013 Nice samples, thanks for that Orient! I'm very interested in this lens... I hope you've got deep pockets, Paul.  Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted June 17, 2013 Share #59  Posted June 17, 2013 I hope you've got deep pockets, Paul. Pete.  Yes it is kind of crazy money but I love it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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