manolo Posted September 5, 2009 Share #61 Posted September 5, 2009 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) no visoflex, no live-view, no electronic framelines, no zooming finder... no worries A la carte in the future Edited September 5, 2009 by manolo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 Hi manolo, Take a look here M9 full specs and pictures are out. Let's discuss.. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Bo_Lorentzen Posted September 5, 2009 Share #62 Posted September 5, 2009 ljclark, thats a good point, Leica have resisted the urge to add useless additional features and must have more modern electronics, efficiency should be improved. The way I see it, no need for more batteries, if a pocket full made it through the day with the 8 surely they will power the 8 and a 9 the same, don't image I will take more pictures. THOUGH.... 18 meg is more than 10 meg, so storage, and possible the power saving these files might foil the math here.? Leica have provides the f.stop for each sample image, I wonder if they carefully recorded those for each shot, used the G.stop or have chosen to record f.stops this time around. . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Pope Posted September 5, 2009 Share #63 Posted September 5, 2009 (edited) Oh and no M8 in the M line up any more....but the M7 and MP continue I'm glad to see. But there will be the APS-C fixed lens 'compact' that was leaked last week - the Leica X-1. True to their word, it's not a micro four-thirds Panaleica. The new compact was listed in the brochure, even if the M8/M8.2 was dropped from the line-up. The hazy product photo looked a bit, er, 'conceptual', though, so maybe the X-1 won't literally be available in the shops on Wednesday...presumably not until they've actually made a few real ones. I know we're M-orientated here, but such a compact would be revolutionary in the current state of the market - it's an extraordinary development. Edited September 5, 2009 by Steve Pope Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erlingmm Posted September 5, 2009 Share #64 Posted September 5, 2009 Oh and no M8 in the M line up any more. I wondered if they would rework the M8 and continue it as a less expensive option, or maybe they will launch such a product at a later stage.... but the M7 and MP continue I'm glad to see. I would guess a lower priced M8.3 that does not need UV/IR filters Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattinson Posted September 5, 2009 Share #65 Posted September 5, 2009 Oh and no M8 in the M line up any more. I wondered if they would rework the M8 and continue it as a less expensive option, or maybe they will launch such a product at a later stage.... but the M7 and MP continue I'm glad to see. Good news is that no M8/M8.2 should mean that the used price stays up a bit better. Otherwise they would have had to put some air between the M9 price and the M8.2, which surely would have murdered the second hand value of the crop sensor cameras. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manolo Posted September 5, 2009 Share #66 Posted September 5, 2009 is the frame rate per second 5? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikelc Posted September 5, 2009 Share #67 Posted September 5, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) The brochure is loaded with great images and I definitely would like to get one as soon as possible. Regards Steve . sorry if i missed it but can anyone post a link to the brochure? mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattinson Posted September 5, 2009 Share #68 Posted September 5, 2009 is the frame rate per second 5? Looks like 2 to me, with a maximum run of 8 consecutive shots. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manolo Posted September 5, 2009 Share #69 Posted September 5, 2009 Looks like 2 to me, with a maximum run of 8 consecutive shots. so it's the same as the M8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevelap Posted September 5, 2009 Share #70 Posted September 5, 2009 is the frame rate per second 5? No, 2fps for 8 frames. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattinson Posted September 5, 2009 Share #71 Posted September 5, 2009 . sorry if i missed it but can anyone post a link to the brochure? mike nope, as detailed in the large message at the top of the forum - that would result in this thread being pulled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted September 5, 2009 Share #72 Posted September 5, 2009 . sorry if i missed it but can anyone post a link to the brochure? mike Use google It will be readily available from sites that are not so close to Leica Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
twittle Posted September 5, 2009 Share #73 Posted September 5, 2009 . sorry if i missed it but can anyone post a link to the brochure? mike You'll find it if you Google it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevelap Posted September 5, 2009 Share #74 Posted September 5, 2009 But there will be the APS-C fixed lens 'compact' that was leaked last week - the Leica X-1. True to their word, it's not a micro four-thirds Panaleica. The new compact was listed in the brochure, even if the M8/M8.2 was dropped from the line-up. The hazy product photo looked a bit, er, 'conceptual', though, so maybe the X-1 won't literally be available in the shops on Wednesday...presumably not until they've actually made a few real ones. I know we're M-orientated here, but such a compact would be revolutionary in the current state of the market - it's an extraordinary development. I got the impression that dealers were not expecting a second camera to be available for a couple of months, nothing definite though. Yes, with the honourable exception of Sigma, Leica will be leading the others in taking the compact/large sensor hybrid fight to micro 4/rds. Big news actually, but little information in the brochure so far and no mention yet of an accessory viewfinder, either optical or EVF. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted September 5, 2009 Share #75 Posted September 5, 2009 No mentioning of a new 35 mm Summilux and special restrictions when using 135 mm APO-Telyt (stop down at least two stops). Regards Per Two different statements: About the microlens technology they say, that all existing M lensens maintain their full performance. On the other hand the note about the 135mm Apo-Telyt calls for "certain criteria" i.e. to stop it down considerably. I hope those "criteria" are no results of sensor technology, but "only" due to the fact, that the rangefinder field of view for 135mm is going to be small. On such a small field you cannot expect the necessary precision for exact focussing, if you use the lens wide opended. (Hope jaapv will prove that i am again wrong with this assumption...). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattinson Posted September 5, 2009 Share #76 Posted September 5, 2009 I got the impression that dealers were not expecting a second camera to be available for a couple of months, nothing definite though. Yes, with the honourable exception of Sigma, Leica will be leading the others in taking the compact/large sensor hybrid fight to micro 4/rds. Big news actually, but little information in the brochure so far and no mention yet of an accessory viewfinder, either optical or EVF. I can't tell for sure - but that X1 pic looks like it might be a 24 2.8 asph fixed lens... if that is the same lens design as the M 28 2.8 asph - then the X1 is going to be a cracker of a camera Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manolo Posted September 5, 2009 Share #77 Posted September 5, 2009 osbithensen Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 5, 2009 Share #78 Posted September 5, 2009 X1 is great news. Shutter lag's the main info needed. Will it have a good old M8 chip inside? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efftee Posted September 5, 2009 Share #79 Posted September 5, 2009 Oh and no M8 in the M line up any more. I wondered if they would rework the M8 and continue it as a less expensive option, or maybe they will launch such a product at a later stage.... but the M7 and MP continue I'm glad to see. I do hope the M8.2 continues to be made and plays the 'little brother' to the M9 but I can also see the X1 filling those shoes quite nicely. In fact, the X1 has been slowly growing on me. I've always lusted after the DP1/2 and now it would seem the X1, if it makes up for all the DP1/2 faults, would be the perfect carry-everywhere-shoot-everything camera! If the price is not prohibitive, it might just do better than most people expect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted September 5, 2009 Share #80 Posted September 5, 2009 I can't tell for sure - but that X1 pic looks like it might be a 24 2.8 asph fixed lens... That's what it looks like to me. Certainly a 24. So that's around the same FOV as a 35mm on a full frame camera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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