efftee Posted September 5, 2009 Share #41 Posted September 5, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not being grumpy here, but…One problem I have with a future purchase is the following : adjusting all my M lenses to my M8 body for front- or backfocusing has been pretty difficult and costly (my 75 being even not quite satisfatorily adjusted until now). In fact, the only lenses which did not need any adjustment were my 50 Lux and my 28 Elmarit bought new last january and my 50 Summicron. Otherwise, Noctilux, 75, 21, 35 Lux, 50 pre-ASPH and 90 Elmarit needed adjustment. I fear the same problems with the M9 : re-adjust everything to that second body specifically, meaning I could not keep the M8 a a backup. According to DAG. I'm curious, just how 'bad' is it without having the lenses 'coupled' to the body? I've not owned a lens, well, other than a 90 Cron that I sold because I thought I just couldn't focus properly with at that focal length, that didn't perform according to expectations - is it dumb luck or dumb me? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 5, 2009 Posted September 5, 2009 Hi efftee, Take a look here M9 full specs and pictures are out. Let's discuss.. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
lct Posted September 5, 2009 Share #42 Posted September 5, 2009 No mentioning of a new 35 mm Summilux and special restrictions when using 135 mm APO-Telyt (stop down at least two stops)... F/4 should be enough. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/1021749-post1.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 5, 2009 Share #43 Posted September 5, 2009 Difficult lenses should be easier to focus on the new body. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/1021749-post1.html Not being grumpy here, but…One problem I have with a future purchase is the following : adjusting all my M lenses to my M8 body for front- or backfocusing has been pretty difficult and costly (my 75 being even not quite satisfatorily adjusted until now). In fact, the only lenses which did not need any adjustment were my 50 Lux and my 28 Elmarit bought new last january and my 50 Summicron. Otherwise, Noctilux, 75, 21, 35 Lux, 50 pre-ASPH and 90 Elmarit needed adjustment. I fear the same problems with the M9 : re-adjust everything to that second body specifically, meaning I could not keep the M8 a a backup. According to DAG. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo_Lorentzen Posted September 5, 2009 Share #44 Posted September 5, 2009 Battery is product nr. 14464 - so my pocket full of M8 batteries will work. good stuff. . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattinson Posted September 5, 2009 Share #45 Posted September 5, 2009 Good :- ability to select lens manually, coding will not be necessary though still useful for added quickness. I can't see anywhere that suggests lenses can be selected manually. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted September 5, 2009 Share #46 Posted September 5, 2009 thanks,so they couldn't do .72? Not without one of the following: dropping the 28mm framelines reducing the thickness of the body to that of the film Ms total redesign of the range/viewfinder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erlingmm Posted September 5, 2009 Share #47 Posted September 5, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) It doesn't say anywhere that its 16-bit. 16-bit is an assumption (probably a wrong assumption) based on the data size. Sandy From Brochure (under Lightroom): At the same time, the 16-bit per channel color information captured by the image sensor is maintained throughout the processing workflow from image import to image export, ensuring that the most delicate tonal differentiations are preserved in maximum quality after completion of the post-processing sequence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattinson Posted September 5, 2009 Share #48 Posted September 5, 2009 I'm curious, just how 'bad' is it without having the lenses 'coupled' to the body? I've not owned a lens, well, other than a 90 Cron that I sold because I thought I just couldn't focus properly with at that focal length, that didn't perform according to expectations - is it dumb luck or dumb me? I couldn't find a 50lux that would focus on my M8 body. Eventually I sent camera and lens in for service, now focuses fine - and so do most other 50lux I try. I think the problem was mostly in the cameras. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manolo Posted September 5, 2009 Share #49 Posted September 5, 2009 Not without one of the following: dropping the 28mm framelines reducing the thickness of the body to that of the film Ms total redesign of the range/viewfinder. comprendo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ash Posted September 5, 2009 Share #50 Posted September 5, 2009 The brochure is loaded with great images and I definitely would like to get one as soon as possible. Regards Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 5, 2009 Share #51 Posted September 5, 2009 Blimey, a quick Google and there's the brochure. First thoughts, how have they managed FF in the existing body, why not chrome (tho the grey looks nice), top plate is very bare tho, needs the traditional Leica script, and .... where's the flash pc socket!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandymc Posted September 5, 2009 Share #52 Posted September 5, 2009 From Brochure (under Lightroom):At the same time, the 16-bit per channel color information captured by the image sensor is maintained throughout the processing workflow from image import to image export, ensuring that the most delicate tonal differentiations are preserved in maximum quality after completion of the post-processing sequence. Yes, but the problem is, previously "16-bit per channel color information" is a phrase that hasn't had any meaning. In fact, for some time, the M8 was described the same way. 16 A/D converter, that would be meaningful. The good news is that clearly however you can select full width DNGs, not only 8-bit compressed Sandy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
efftee Posted September 5, 2009 Share #53 Posted September 5, 2009 I couldn't find a 50lux that would focus on my M8 body. Eventually I sent camera and lens in for service, now focuses fine - and so do most other 50lux I try. I think the problem was mostly in the cameras. That would make sense. I have a 50 Lux and it focuses nicely. Hopefully this wouldn't be an issue with M9! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljclark Posted September 5, 2009 Share #54 Posted September 5, 2009 What does the M9 bottom look like? (Minds out of the gutter, ladies and gentlemen!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted September 5, 2009 Share #55 Posted September 5, 2009 Cuba - a country whose leadership has spent the last 40 years resisting change. Is that why Leica thought it was a good place for the brochure shoot? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 5, 2009 Share #56 Posted September 5, 2009 I love the photography in the brochure! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljclark Posted September 5, 2009 Share #57 Posted September 5, 2009 Battery is product nr. 14464 - so my pocket full of M8 batteries will work. good stuff. . Let's see...Being optimistic regarding improvements in the electronics -- shooting for the same kinds of files -- my first guess is 50% more shots per battery. (I should start a pool.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljclark Posted September 5, 2009 Share #58 Posted September 5, 2009 Cuba - a country whose leadership has spent the last 40 years resisting change. Is that why Leica thought it was a good place for the brochure shoot? ...And a land where people have learned it's best to keep secrets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 5, 2009 Share #59 Posted September 5, 2009 Oh and no M8 in the M line up any more. I wondered if they would rework the M8 and continue it as a less expensive option, or maybe they will launch such a product at a later stage.... but the M7 and MP continue I'm glad to see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted September 5, 2009 Share #60 Posted September 5, 2009 Blimey, a quick Google and there's the brochure. First thoughts, how have they managed FF in the existing body, why not chrome (tho the grey looks nice), top plate is very bare tho, needs the traditional Leica script, and .... where's the flash pc socket!!!! I agree about the bare top plate. The people who designed the M3 put the script there for more reasons than just to show the maker's name. And providing no way to use an auxiliary viewfinder with flash shows that Leica still don't care. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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