S2 under pricing pressure

[mgcd]

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Well, if your remark refers to Mark's post, nothing strange that a Company firstly publishes the price list, then starts to deliver, or am I wrong ?

 

Well no, my remarks were written before Mark posted, but as luck would have it his post came before mine.

[mhoersch]

THIS could be a problem... ... ANNOUNCE, SHOW and then... do nothing more. I hope won't be so for S2... given my bias towards the Company, I'd concede they can afford/risk even a delay of a pair of months... let's say... deliver Nov/Dec 09... "difficult economic moment" - "final quality assurance" - "service dep. training/organization"... even the perennial "final software debugging":rolleyes:; but if they won't deliver... a bad smash on their reputation... sometimes, I think the worst scenario could be that they would declare that the "project" will be passed to, and finalized, by Pansonic or something else...

 

What reputation?

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[luigi bertolotti]

What reputation?

 

Oh, damn, I'm of the ones still intimately thinking that "leica is always LEICA" ... our Gotterdammerung hasn' yet turned to deep night...

[jaapv]

But there are those that would chase out Brunhilde...

[adan]

New price point to consider - Hassy CFV-39 back (for older Hassy bodies) @ $14,000 US

 

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slightly bigger sensor and pixel count - if used in square-crop mode it's 29 Mpixels vs. 25 for the S2.

 

Seeing as I just picked up a Hassy C/M and 2 CF lenses (50/80) for $1,000.....

[mhoersch]

Leica pixels are much better than Hassi pixels, so: no problem.

[dhsimmonds]

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Leica pixels are much better than Hassi pixels, so: no problem.

Who says? I haven't yet seen a full spec. for the S2.....have you? I do have the spec. for the Hassie back though!

[mhoersch]

Who says? I haven't yet seen a full spec. for the S2.....have you? I do have the spec. for the Hassie back though!

 

Sorry, forgot in my last post, or maybe didn't forget but thought this was obvious.

[stevesanacore]

I just don't understand Leica's thinking on these prices. I think they should have tried to compete with Canon and Nikon, not the high end MF market which is slowly dying a quiet death with our without Leica. Back in the film days, they survived against the other 35mm camera makers, why is digital so different? Why build a ridiculously expensive system to compete in such a small market segment?

 

Sorry Leica, I wish them the best, but don't see one in my future at these prices.

[jaapv]

There is an interesting business case in Morgan. Idiosyncratic cars with very few creature comforts. Another niche factory which is a survivor of a massive Japanese onslaught which killed off the British car industry as it tried to compete, by striving to keep small and sticking to their own way.

There was some flagging of interest, so they built the Aero, a hugely overpriced, but quite unique sportscar, with the sole intention of stimulating interest in the marque and as a technology platform. It rekindled the interest in their regular models, and surprisingly, is selling not too badly at all, against all expectation.

Sounds familiar?

[wlaidlaw]

There is an interesting business case in Morgan. Idiosyncratic cars with very few creature comforts. Another niche factory which is a survivor of a massive Japanese onslaught which killed off the British car industry as it tried to compete, by striving to keep small and sticking to their own way.

There was some flagging of interest, so they built the Aero, a hugely overpriced, but quite unique sportscar, with the sole intention of stimulating interest in the marque and as a technology platform. It rekindled the interest in their regular models, and surprisingly, is selling not too badly at all, against all expectation.

Sounds familiar?

 

I hope the S2's will be better built than Morgans ;-}}

 

......and yes I have had two in the past, 1926 Aero-Blackburn SS 3 wheeler and 4/4 racing car.

 

Wilson

[jaapv]

Well, as long as one removed all the tacks that were put through the electric wiring and welded up the exhaust on a regular basis, they were not too bad. Certainly not weatherproof... Drove one for 18 years.

[andybarton]

When was the last time you saw an Aero (not at a car show)...?

 

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Nope.

 

Never.

 

I hope that the S2 sells a lot more than Morgan can sell Aeros.

 

As an aside, Morgan always reminds me of the BBC programme where Sir John Harvey-Jones turns up and trys to teach them how to run their business. He was CEO of ICI (just retired) at the time, and "Britain's best businessman", specialising in trying to turn round failing companies. Ring any bells?

 

The Morgan family told him to bugger off.

 

Morgan are still here (although goodness only knows how), but remind me what happened to ICI...