epand56 Posted April 28, 2009 Share #41 Posted April 28, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Maybe i've never payed enough attention, but I do not remember having seen somebody taking pictures without keeping the camera in front of the face. I always thought anybody used the left eye as I do. I tryed to use the right one after reading this thread, but... No way. Even worst if I keep both eyes open. What I seee is a trembling landscape. I think i will go on taking pics with my left one getting my screen dirty with the point of my nose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 28, 2009 Posted April 28, 2009 Hi epand56, Take a look here Left or right eye?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
edinsiam Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share #42 Posted April 28, 2009 lately, I've been experimenting using my non-dominant right eye. I haven't noticed any particular difference in the results yet, but I feel that it perhaps takes me a little longer to focus. This may mean that my left eye, even if it actually does not see as well as my right one, is simply more used - or perhaps more fit? - for this operation. A curiousity: after switching eye on purpose for a while, it kinda kicks in and becomes natural. I don't think it is the eyes becoming less or more dominant though: it probably is the hands who can remember what eye to lift the camera to after a bit. Yes, the question of keeping the left eye oper or closed while shooting with the right eye is a good one. I have always read of many Leica photographers doing so, but never understood the reasons behind it. If, on one side, it could be useful to keep the whole scene under control with both eyes open even while shooting (and keeping both eyes open may perhaps look also less intimidating to the people being shot), on the other side I guess that closing one eye throws you really inside the picture, therefore probably increasing your concentration and attention to detail. Just my impressions, somebody else can maybe correct me or say more about this. Ed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcoombs Posted April 28, 2009 Share #43 Posted April 28, 2009 If you're doing people shots and are in close, keeping both eyes open allows the subject to see you looking at them rather than the camera (if that makes any sense). I've often noticed a difference in their response if they can look me in the eye, too. Perhaps it seems less impersonal to them. It's a lot easier with an M3 than the later Leicas, though if you use the 1.25x magnifier then with practice you can work with both eyes open. Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinsiam Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share #44 Posted April 28, 2009 Doug, sorry, I don't understand this: why would you need the 1.25x magnfifier for keeping both eyes open? Isn't what you see through the built-in viewfinder already real life size? Ed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcoombs Posted April 28, 2009 Share #45 Posted April 28, 2009 Doug, sorry, I don't understand this: why would you need the 1.25x magnfifier for keeping both eyes open? Isn't what you see through the built-in viewfinder already real life size? Ed No it isn't. To accomodate the wider framelines they reduced the magnification to 0.68, I believe, for the M8. The old M3 is a 0.91. Great for viewing, but it means no framelines below 50mm. That's why they made the 35mm with goggles for the M3. The M6 is 0.71, with options through a la carte to get 0.58 or 0.86 installed for those who used wideangles or 90-135mm more often. Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinsiam Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share #46 Posted April 28, 2009 No it isn't. To accomodate the wider framelines they reduced the magnification to 0.68, I believe, for the M8. The old M3 is a 0.91. Great for viewing, but it means no framelines below 50mm. That's why they made the 35mm with goggles for the M3. The M6 is 0.71, with options through a la carte to get 0.58 or 0.86 installed for those who used wideangles or 90-135mm more often. Doug Oh, i see. Thank you, Doug, did not know this. And up to what focal lens can the 1.25x magnifier be used before you can't see the frames anymore? Ed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfage Posted April 28, 2009 Share #47 Posted April 28, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've often wondered about this. It might have something to do with the way we think -- critical / analytical or emotional. I am right-handed and shoot with my left, both on my D3 and Rollei prism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcoombs Posted April 28, 2009 Share #48 Posted April 28, 2009 Oh, i see. Thank you, Doug, did not know this. And up to what focal lens can the 1.25x magnifier be used before you can't see the frames anymore? Ed The 1.25x magnifier is designed to be used with lenses 50mm and longer, where it works fine. With it on you can just barely see the 35mm framelines if you tilt your head a bit to the sides. Not usable if you wear glasses as I do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epand56 Posted April 28, 2009 Share #49 Posted April 28, 2009 Oh, i see. Thank you, Doug, did not know this. And up to what focal lens can the 1.25x magnifier be used before you can't see the frames anymore? Ed Ed, you can barely see 35mm framelines with the 1.25x magnifier. but your life is soooooooooo better... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinsiam Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share #50 Posted April 28, 2009 Hehe, thanks Doug and Enrico. I assume that by 35mm you mean 35mm framelines and not necessarily a 35mm lens (I'm thinking about my 28mm which is the lens I normally use on my M8, of course), am I right? Ed Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcoombs Posted April 28, 2009 Share #51 Posted April 28, 2009 Hehe, thanks Doug and Enrico. I assume that by 35mm you mean 35mm framelines and not necessarily a 35mm lens (I'm thinking about my 28mm which is the lens I normally use on my M8, of course), am I right? Ed Correct. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bybrett Posted April 28, 2009 Share #52 Posted April 28, 2009 My non-scientific survey shows that 7 out of 10 M8 owners prefer the right eye... here's the proof - M8Owners Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carcam Posted April 28, 2009 Share #53 Posted April 28, 2009 Shoot either eye. Don't much think about it. Ah, you must be amphibious. I have to shoot left eye since I'm strongly left eye dominant. If I shoot right eye, I have to squeeze my left eye shut to focus and my eye gets tired of trying to keep it closed. Shooting with my left eye, I can keep my right eye open which is more relaxed. But I do get tired of the smears on the lcd... Good post Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hef Posted April 28, 2009 Share #54 Posted April 28, 2009 I am ambidextrous from playing the drums over 30 years... I've learned to have the camera in either hand, horizontal or vertical and use both eyes simultaneously... either the right eye with left open or the left with right open. I use the right eye when i'm doing summer baseball because i can keep my left eye open to anticipate plays or pitching... The only thing that stinks is as I've gotten older, my close focus distance stinks... so i usually have glasses in my pocket to inspect afterward. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJP Posted April 28, 2009 Share #55 Posted April 28, 2009 My non-scientific survey shows that 7 out of 10 M8 owners prefer the right eye... here's the proof - M8Owners And 15 out of 75 or about 20% shoot with both eyes open based on this survey. Of course for the left eyed shooters opening the right eye makes no sense in landscape mode. They really need a M8T with a plexiglass body (again I will gladly accept a percentage from dr. andreas for this novel marketing concept). Or you could shoot upside down I guess but even Australians do not do that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted April 29, 2009 Share #56 Posted April 29, 2009 Here's a picture of Robert Frank shooting left-eyed. Can't tell if the other eye is open or not. scott Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointcolville Posted April 30, 2009 Share #57 Posted April 30, 2009 Another right hand, left eye dominant user. I either squint and shoot with the left eye, or put my pointy nose into the LCD. Archery is easier - I bought a lefty bow and I'm switching over. I'm waiting for a Leica fanatic with a CNC machine in his basement to mod me a lefty Leica. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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