M'Ate Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share #41 Posted October 27, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) next phrase is to have two m8 bodies.. one for b/w JPEG mode and the other for colour JPEG mode :-)))))))))))) QUOTE] The next phase IS the dedicated B&W body. Already being market tested. I understand it will have twice the resolution. I think this is from the same sensor and comes in at 17+ Mpix. To the more technical among us, if an RGB pixel site is devoted to be a B&W only site is there a resolution multiplication factor because it's not handling the three colours? Presume this comes from the early Kodak work. There again, who on earth will want a dedicated B&W M body at 17 Mpix when you can still get Tri-X ?? Form an orderly queue please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 27, 2006 Posted October 27, 2006 Hi M'Ate, Take a look here M8 - the end for your Film M's ?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
robert_parker Posted October 27, 2006 Share #42 Posted October 27, 2006 I've heard it said that Leica may yet offer another film camera - possibly a new film M camera to show committment to 'the two channels'....don't know where I heard that.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachkebia Posted October 27, 2006 Share #43 Posted October 27, 2006 For mainstream it will, for me it wont, am I mainstream? no, do I want to be? no, was ever leica user mainstream? no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vic Posted October 27, 2006 Share #44 Posted October 27, 2006 m'ate ... oh, i cannot wait to that dedicated b/w sensor - i want it so much.. can i pre-order it... it must have better resolution then tri-x :-))))))))))))) robert... leica, with its supreme "image"/"lebel" is better to develop some educational approach to film photography... this will show and most importantly act as much more comitment to "both channels" then another m body... what is wrong with mp or m7??? ah, if they can produce some super minimalistic wide angle camera - it will be great for some photographers (me too - i will love it).. also, if they can produce some low cost entery level m then cool too as it can serve many young photographers who have no finances to buy in their early career (or during their studies) the expenssive super m camera and super m lenses. but actually - this job is already in the hands of voigtlander. i know it from my personal experience... voigtlander was my first range-finder camera when i was very young student (and not in photo or art at all) and couldnot buy the leica at that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grober Posted October 27, 2006 Share #45 Posted October 27, 2006 Going all digital? Yes. There's no option:poor photofinishing availability created this now-unavoidable inflection point. -g Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'Ate Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share #46 Posted November 13, 2006 Well, some water has flowed under the bridge since this thread was launched. Anybody that thought they would keep their film M's now changed over and going M8. Find it very interesting, in fact quite incredulous, that I sense that M owners are moving towards the M8 on the strength of the few frontiersmen, Guy, Pascal, Marc, Jamie etc., who are doing a sterling job of making this box work. So second thoughts about retiring film M's ? I've been off and am now back on this pot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blovitch Posted November 13, 2006 Share #47 Posted November 13, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have an a la carte M7 and a black paint M6....(with holes in shutter) Both have film in, and both get used. My daughter (13) is learning photography on the M6 and loving it. She enjoys the slightly less immediate nature of film. The anticipation that comes from dropping a film off at the lab and waiting..... I would be lynched if I suggested getting rid of either of them.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilliamsphotography Posted November 13, 2006 Share #48 Posted November 13, 2006 Well, the prediction that the film Ms may be on vacation for a couple of months while everyone is preoccupied with the M8 may not be so true now huh? Sure am glad I kept the M7 and MP3. To the fellow that asked my impression of the MP3 ... finest M I ever owned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'Ate Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share #49 Posted November 13, 2006 Well, the prediction that the film Ms may be on vacation for a couple of months while everyone is preoccupied with the M8 may not be so true now huh? Sure am glad I kept the M7 and MP3. To the fellow that asked my impression of the MP3 ... finest M I ever owned. Hey marc, your enthusiasm for the M8 is catching and, outstanding issues solved, you surely will be putting dust covers on the M7 and the M3. Strip off in Bellvue Plaza if I got that one wrong. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidada Posted November 13, 2006 Share #50 Posted November 13, 2006 The only reason I will keep my M6 is to look at it - no way will it get used again since buying the M8. I do not have the time to buy film shoot it in tiny portions 36 at a time, send them out to be trashed, make contacts, decide the whole roll was worthless, start over again, lose the light, dole out my shots like precious gold etc etc. No, I like to shoot hundreds of shots, see them instantly, discard the ugly, save the few, massage them in PS, print them out and keep on shooting with wonderful optics going back to the dawn of 35mm photography- what a great combination to have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilliamsphotography Posted November 14, 2006 Share #51 Posted November 14, 2006 Hey marc' date=' your enthusiasm for the M8 is catching and, outstanding issues solved, you surely will be putting dust covers on the M7 and the M3. Strip off in Bellvue Plaza if I got that one wrong. :-)[/quote'] Not quite my friend. Don't mistake enthusasim for blind faith. I'll give anything a chance to prove itself and do everything I can to make it work for me ... up to a point. IMHO, these problems are not solved. I've tracked all the attempts and done some myself. They are NOT solved. Unfortunately, the real solution to the jobs I HAVE to deliver on currently sits in my roller bag containing proven gear: Canon DSLRs and film Ms. My hope is to replace those DSLRs with a M8 for color candid work. That hope is NOT realized ... yet. When and if the M8 is brought around, the film Ms will remain as they always have been ... with me on every job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddp Posted November 14, 2006 Share #52 Posted November 14, 2006 Well, the prediction that the film Ms may be on vacation for a couple of months while everyone is preoccupied with the M8 may not be so true now huh? Sure am glad I kept the M7 and MP3. To the fellow that asked my impression of the MP3 ... finest M I ever owned. Ha! Thank you....it strikes another nail in the coffin for me. As in acquiring one of these that is! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_tanaka Posted November 14, 2006 Share #53 Posted November 14, 2006 No, I don't plan to sell the M7 when/if the M8 arrives. I still enjoy pulling a roll of film through the M7 every so often. Nostalgia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddp Posted November 14, 2006 Share #54 Posted November 14, 2006 And to answer the original poster - NO! An end to my film M's? Lol....no way. There is something intangible about seeing my chromes on a lightbox. The richness, the saturation. Print film as well. The texture and subtleties are still what draws me to film. I am no stranger to the digital world as some here know...I was very close to going the DMR route, very close. But a set of chromes I shot in late winter ended that thought process. I've seen the evolution of Nikon digital since Y2K...and it's still a work in progress. There's alot I can do with that gear, but..... I have yet to see something from the M8 that would make me ditch my film M's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakley Posted November 14, 2006 Share #55 Posted November 14, 2006 I agree with Marc here. The problems are NOT solved. There's evidence that they can be solved, but it's not conclusive. I'm waiting for a solution, and I'm optimistic. But especially for color, and especially under artificial lighting, the MP is still my choice, and the M8 is a gamble. Even after the M8 is fixed (which I'm pretty confident it will be, and reasonably soon), I'll still use film - esp. Ilford B&W - in my film Ms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivek Iyer Posted November 14, 2006 Share #56 Posted November 14, 2006 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/6144038.stm Whether it will rescue Leica is to be seen. Realistically, it could be just a blip towards the firm eventually becoming a badge within a larger company. Like Ford has classy Jaguars and Aston Martins, Panasonic may soon have "classy" Leicas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodyspedden Posted November 14, 2006 Share #57 Posted November 14, 2006 My hope is that the M7 finally gets to real prices on the ebay market. Then I will have an M7 to go with two M6TTL's and a vintage M3 with a meter that still works. Leica is both a destination and a journey. Have fun with the journey while using the various tools to get to the destination. Woody Spedden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grober Posted November 14, 2006 Share #58 Posted November 14, 2006 M7 + two lenses went to the block earlier this year in order to build cash for the M8. The Bessa R2M is my only film body now ('cept an old Pentax film SLR for long tele work.) With the M8's much-dscussed teething problems, I'm learning to love B&W all over again. -g Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSee Posted November 14, 2006 Share #59 Posted November 14, 2006 Having just received an M8, and made the normal "test snaps" of objects, I can easily say that my film Ms (4 & 6) will certainly stay in use... but this M8! What a new an exciting way to work, almost as with my film Ms... except I have wrapped the strap around my right thumb to regain the purchase I'd had with the film advance lever I'm seeing things anew, and not even used C1LE yet... maybe in a month or so... must get used to the crop factor and the .68 VF before I tackle color "issues" first: with both eyes open, focus and framing is a wee bit different. I've purchased a 486 IR filter... thanks to all the proactive folk for your work on the IR sensitivity of the M8. rgds, Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigrmurray Posted November 14, 2006 Share #60 Posted November 14, 2006 I won't give up my film M's, it would be like selling my cats. Even though I shoot almost all digital now, and just got my M8 last Friday, the bond that I've developed with something that I made my living with years ago (the film M's), is too connected with my youth -- therefore, too much of a life-thread. Then there's the tactile part. Perhaps the biggest "feel" difference between the M8 and the film M's lies in firing the shutter. Often when sitting idle or watching TV, I'll grab my old M4 or M3 or M2 and just "dry fire" it. Empty of film. I own some nice old pistols, too, which I don't shoot much anymore, and which I sometimes dry fire, just 'cause I like the feel of it. But I would no more consider selling my Colt .45 Gold Cup than my M4, just because I don't shoot either of them much anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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